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    Fuel Nozzle Won't Stay in Fuel Neck

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    Using this fuel pump type which seem to be abundant all over CA gas stations, every one of these will not stay in the fuel neck. It constantly pops out! My first time fueling the car, it was hard to get it in place and then while it started fueling, a second or two in, it popped out and fell on the ground. If it had scratched my car on the way down I would have been pissed. It seems this fuel nozzle in general is not compatible with the way the fuel neck is designed in the ATS. I'm the only person at the gas station who has to hold the fuel pump which kind of makes me feel ridiculous.

    The dealership tell me it is the design of the fuel neck and it is not a manufacturer defect. While they are able to duplicate this issue in my car and with other ATS's on the lot, the car is designed like this so until GM issue a fix, it seems nothing can be done and it will continue to be an inconvenience. They instruct me to drive around and find different gas stations to use that do not have this style of pump nozzle which is even more absurd than sucking it up and standing there fueling it myself.

    I like to clean my front and rear windows while I refuel so it seriously sucks that I cannot do that if I pick the "wrong" gas station and have to spend even more time there than I would like to.

    Has anyone else experienced this problem?

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    Re: Fuel Nozzle Won't Stay in Fuel Neck

    That sucks seeing you are trying to use a top tier fuel brand to.

    I think it might have to do with California having regulations that requires a different fuel pump nozzle design than the rest of the country

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    Re: Fuel Nozzle Won't Stay in Fuel Neck

    I've noticed this issue also at one shell station, but at another it was not an issue. I have only fueled up twice since I bought it.

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    Re: Fuel Nozzle Won't Stay in Fuel Neck

    Quote Originally Posted by CTSCHICK View Post
    That sucks seeing you are trying to use a top tier fuel brand to.

    I think it might have to do with California having regulations that requires a different fuel pump nozzle design than the rest of the country
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    This!
    Cailfornia has mandated "clean air" nozzles. These nozzles have different design and size, and you are not the only person who has problem with these nozzles. There are other cars that have similar problems.

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    Re: Fuel Nozzle Won't Stay in Fuel Neck

    That nozzle design is to keep "gas vapors" from the air. CA is big on air quality issues dealing with motor vehicles. They want you to stand there and keep pressure on the spring loaded nozzle for a tight fit to catch all those "vapors".

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    Re: Fuel Nozzle Won't Stay in Fuel Neck

    I've noticed that I have to insert the nozzle at an odd/low angle to get it to go in, certainly different from any other vehicle I have fueled up in the past few years...
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    Re: Fuel Nozzle Won't Stay in Fuel Neck

    I live in SoCal and have had to fight with these nozzles for years on several different vehicles, the ATS is not one of them. Although I only have 4k on the odo, I have filled up several times at a few different locations, and I have not had this problem with the ATS

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    Re: Fuel Nozzle Won't Stay in Fuel Neck

    Quote Originally Posted by DiabloMike View Post
    I've noticed that I have to insert the nozzle at an odd/low angle to get it to go in, certainly different from any other vehicle I have fueled up in the past few years...
    ^^ Yes, I have noticed exactly the same thing. Like the top of the gas nozzle catches on something, and you just have to angle it toward the ground slightly but not too much or it doesn't go in then either so then you pullthewholethingoutandyouhavetostartoveragainitca nbeprettyirritating...

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    Re: Fuel Nozzle Won't Stay in Fuel Neck

    Have gassed up 3 times and did indeed have this problem at one station (so not the other two).

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    Not to mention the actual body of the pump handle can actually rest against the paint under the fuel door. I have only found one station that had a pump that didn't interfere going in or wanting to rest on the body. 10k miles. I just deal with it.

    The funniest part was the first tank of gas. The salesman went with us and he couldn't get it to go in!

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    Re: Fuel Nozzle Won't Stay in Fuel Neck

    I live in California and have the same problem with "vapor recapture" pumps. However, I also had the same problem with my E90 BMW 328.

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    Re: Fuel Nozzle Won't Stay in Fuel Neck

    Before I retired, I used to travel to California quite often and I remember that I hated the "clean air" nozzles. You had to push in pretty hard to compress the rubber part that's supposed to keep fumes from escaping. I kinda doubt they do a lot of good though. There's not much nozzle protruding beyond the rubber piece so I can see how it wouldn't stay in the fuel neck. Don't have that problem in Alabama, thankfully, or any other state I've driven in lately. Only California. Of course, California usually sets the standards for the nation on most everything. But this is one thing I hope doesn't catch on.

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    Ha ha, I thought everybody had those nozzles, LOL. I've gotten a bit used to it now with the ATS, I never had this issue with my BMWs. But it's not a big deal, it just took a little while to get used.

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    Re: Fuel Nozzle Won't Stay in Fuel Neck

    Never really thought holding the pump was an inconvenience..

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    Re: Fuel Nozzle Won't Stay in Fuel Neck

    Those dirty nasty pumps.

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