Um... Really? That statement was so ridiculous that I can only surmise that you were trying to be inflammatory.Originally Posted by RemaxAl
My last 11 cars have all had factory sunroofs and not one of the have ever leaked or given me a problem. EVER.
The only sunroof that is of questionable value is the one on my '12 CTS coupe that only vents, but does not open by design. I almost didn't get it for that reason, but I wanted the extra light in the cabin. The cost was also half of what a fully functional moonroof goes for.
Those T-tops you mentioned were terrible! They leaked, squeaked and were prone to being stolen. When moon-roofs went from being afterthoughts, nothing more than holes cut into a roof after production to fully integrated designs with rain gutters and channels, they became much more reliable.
Occasionally you will hear of issues like what you see with the 2nd gen CTS when that was introduced, with issues like noise and clogged drain holes causing leaks, but that was a newer full glass roof and I believe those issues were eventually resolved.
Our BMW X5 has the full panoramic rood and we love it. Open it all the way and it's as close as you can get to a convertible while still having a roof.
As for convertibles, I have one... A Mustang that is strictly a summer car. It's great on a sunny day with the top down, but as an every day driver soft top convertibles with the top up are noisier (both wind and road noise), prone to vandalism from a teenager with a pocket knife and hardly weather tight. Go through a high pressure touchless car wash and you will know what I mean. There is much more that can go wrong with all the pumps and cables and when that top gets worn, cracked or damaged it can be replaced for ONLY $2,000 or so since they typically can't be repaired. The chassis of convertibles are less sturdy since the roof (a major structural component) is now missing. Modern day convertibles that are designed from the beginning to be drop tops are better, but all that extra bracing and structural reinforcement adds additional weight, and it's still not as strong as a car with a roof, even one that "has a hole cut in it". I still get some ever so slight cowl shake going over railroad tracks or some of our wonderful weather beaten Michigan roads.
As for hardtop convertibles, they improve on the noise, rigidity, and weather sealing aspects, but they are heavier and with the top down you lose any trunk space you may have.
Also consider that convertibles only come in two doors, if you need four doors, forget it.
As for that rainstorm you mentioned.... When driving on the highway at 70 mph and it starts to rain, is it really that strenuous to reach up and push the one-touch button and have the roof close by itself, where as in a convertible (or those old T-tops) you have to pull over to the side of the road, stop and wait the 20 or 30 seconds to raise the roof, and the merge back on to that 70 mph traffic in the rain.
Having said all that, there is nothing like driving with the top down on a beautiful day.
Our Mustang only gets driven about 3,500 - 4,000 miles a year and 98% of the time it is with the top down. In those other times I will drive my other cars that have holes in their roofs.