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    Possible Supercharger for the Cadillac ATS 3.6L

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    500hp at the crank in an ATS that weighs 400lbs less than a CTS will make for a very quick car. We just need to wait and see if the supercharger will work okay for the new 3.6L in the 2012.
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    Re: Possible Supercharger for the Cadillac ATS 3.6L

    Did I see that correctly? 419 rwhp in that Camaro?

    The market potential has to be huge with all the 3.6 motors out there. Of course, lots of the those people aren't enthusiasts, but still ...
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    Re: Possible Supercharger for the Cadillac ATS 3.6L

    So is the TTV6 dead? Sounds like they can't get it right and going with a simpler route...

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    OK, nevermind. Just read the link. I want FACTORY power, dammit!

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    Re: Possible Supercharger for the Cadillac ATS 3.6L

    The only problem is I think torque is a little light compared to the horsepower.
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    Re: Possible Supercharger for the Cadillac ATS 3.6L

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Cadillac View Post
    The only problem is I think torque is a little light compared to the horsepower.
    Typical.

    Too bad they wouldn't do a supercharger, then that wouldn't be an issue.
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    Re: Possible Supercharger for the Cadillac ATS 3.6L

    Quote Originally Posted by rand49er View Post
    Typical.

    Too bad they wouldn't do a supercharger, then that wouldn't be an issue.
    How/Why is that?
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    Re: Possible Supercharger for the Cadillac ATS 3.6L

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Cadillac View Post
    How/Why is that?
    Were you referring to tbjs's comment?
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    Were you referring to tbjs's comment?
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    Re: Possible Supercharger for the Cadillac ATS 3.6L

    Quote Originally Posted by rand49er View Post
    Were you referring to tbjs's comment?
    Why wouldn't torque be a problem with a supercharger as opposed to the turbo?
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    Re: Possible Supercharger for the Cadillac ATS 3.6L

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Cadillac View Post
    Why wouldn't torque be a problem with a supercharger as opposed to the turbo?
    Superchargers have no lag. And even when Turbo's "lack" lag (it's still there just not noticeable) the torque profile on the low end favors supercharger. However on the high end (once they spool up) the torque profile favors a Turbo.

    VW tried to solve this with a "Twin Charger" which was a 1.2L (maybe a 1.4L) that was both Super and Turbo charged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0AT E03 View Post
    Superchargers have no lag. And even when Turbo's "lack" lag (it's still there just not noticeable) the torque profile on the low end favors supercharger. However on the high end (once they spool up) the torque profile favors a Turbo.

    VW tried to solve this with a "Twin Charger" which was a 1.2L (maybe a 1.4L) that was both Super and Turbo charged.
    Thanks for the explanation. There's a discussion thread about a compound build in the 2009+ CTS-V performance area where a vendor is adding turbo to the supercharger. I wonder if BMWs triple charger will have something combines the two as well.
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    Re: Possible Supercharger for the Cadillac ATS 3.6L

    GM was working on a four cylinder that was turbo and super charged. I read about it in popular mechanics a few years ago. That was the last I ever heard about it.

    My stepdad's GTI really has no lag at all. It pulls HARD from about 1500 rpm. Of course, it runs out of breath around 5500 rpm, which is about 1000 rpm before redline. First turbo car I have ever driven that gives up high in the rev range and has such tremendous low end torque. And while I am no fan of DSG, those instantaneous shifts do keep the boost going. And they are freakin fast.

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    Re: Possible Supercharger for the Cadillac ATS 3.6L

    As I said before, I don't follow this stuff closely, but don't some turbos use variable-vane technology in an attempt to maximize both low speed and high speed boost?
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    Re: Possible Supercharger for the Cadillac ATS 3.6L

    Quote Originally Posted by rand49er View Post
    As I said before, I don't follow this stuff closely, but don't some turbos use variable-vane technology in an attempt to maximize both low speed and high speed boost?
    They do. And they are getting better. However no matter what a Supercharger will have more instant torque than a Turbo. Just as an electric motor has more instant torque than a typical gas/diesel motor.

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    Re: Possible Supercharger for the Cadillac ATS 3.6L

    I thought that was what biturbo is for.

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