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Old 02-18-04, 02:02 PM
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i didnt want to let the cat out of the bag too early but i now know which one to look for 89-90 , i want the tilt telescope wheel ....been on the prowl for a few weeks , fell in love with a 93 white diamond tan interior for 15k with 44k ont he clock but i really dont want to much of a car payment (wanna stay around 10k)

im still thinkin about getting the 93 tho , i guess ill go reseacrh northstars a little
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Old 02-28-04, 11:14 PM
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Re: Best Allante to buy?

I'll tell you one thing, the seats in my 93 Allante are a heck of a lot more comfortable than the ones in my 98 Seville.
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Re: Best Allante to buy?

I have been looking at the Allante's for over 4 years now. I would not buy the 1993 model. The last real Allante was built in 1992. In 93, they changed the seats, to a more Cadillac soft seat. They changed the motor to the North Star which was a good thing, except it's not really needed except over 75 mph. They changed most of the dash to look more Cadillac and they also softened the suspension. ekkk

buy a 92, you'll love it!
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Old 03-11-04, 07:07 PM
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Re: Best Allante to buy?

The 93 seats are firm and very supportive. They're easier to adjust since you don't have to look down to see what button you're hitting. The suspension on 93's was changed to an active system. Not softer, just different. The brakes are pretty much trouble free and are larger than earlier models. The dash is the same as it's always been. Having the Northstar, I've found it's easier to get the dealer to work on it since it's still a current drivetrain system.

I did research too and am quite happy with my 93. If you really want to choose for yourself, try as many as you can and see what's best for you.
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Old 03-15-04, 04:22 AM
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I'm going to stick my nose into this.

1st, I own a '93 so I'm biased.

After reading literally over 1000 posts from Allante owners of all years I've come to the conclusion buying a low mileage '93 is the only way to go.

Reasons:
1. No droopy visors! Seems to be a big problem in older models. The '93 uses Eldorado or Seville visors so replacement is easy to come by whereas older Allante's used a unique visor. Replaements are not available to my knowledge.
2. Northstar engine (parts availability excellent)
3. The tranny (best of all years produced for Allante); an excellent performer
4. The seats. Controls are straight forward unlike the Recardo's; 3 switches instead of 6 or 7- too many to go wrong. '93 seats are full leather Eldorado seats so all parts readily available in junk yards cheap.
5. Northstar engine (doesnt' require the critical care as previous years)
6. Brakes. Standard Cadillac disk brakes. Older years are VERY costly to maintain plus finding someone who can do the job right isn't easy. Any brake shop can take care of '93 brake system.)
7. Cupholder in center console (most everyone who owns an older Allante wish they had that feature.
8. Speakers. Not Bose but standard Cadillac. They do not have the multi-amplifer replacement problem that is common on all previous year models and quite costly to repair.)
9. Northstar engine. More HP than all previous models.
10. No vent windows. (Cleaner look)
11. Exterior lighting system. (Less complicated than previous models)
12. The seats. (Personal opinion. I don't like the looks of the Recardo seats; especially if they have that large plactic loop guiding the seatbelt. I don't like the plastic seatbelt retractors on the the '98 and newer Sevilles either.)
13. The headrests. Two way adjustable. They also kinda match the overall appearance of the Allante which to me is square-ish. The recardo headrests are curved which don't really match the square corners of the interior. Again, personal opinion).
14. The seatbelts. (I hate seatbelts when they don't fit over me properly. On the '93 they fit perfectly! Very comfortable. Plus they don't hold you to the seat if you want to move forward or reach to the passenger footwell.
15. The Northstar exterior emblem treatment. (Still seen on today's Cadillacs)
16. The top cover. (Personal opinion: I like the looks of the domed top cover vice the flat deck cover, or sculptured looking cover.)
17. Older models are more likely to have split, discolored or curled dash on top.
18. Pre '93s seem to have a problem with soft top wearing a hole on either side just aft of side windows.
19. Some '93 have color matching tops. I also like the material used on the '93 tops. Its cloth like. I honestly don't know if the same material is used on older Allantes.
20. Suspension. If you like the basic Cadillac ride, the '93 duplicates it quite well in the city but stiffens up nicely as you move past 40mph. The car is VERY stable at speeds above 100 mph. Actual top speed on the '93 is 145 MPH. I don't know about earlier versions.
21. The Northstar engine. It was an Indianapolis Pace car and was the only pace car ever (up to that time) that did not require ANY modifications to the body, cooling, engine or brakes before going on the track. Pace cars must be able to take the cars around at ~120 MPH before they hit the starting line.
22. When the '93 was designed Cadillac did not expect it would be the last year of production therefore their latest technology in electricals, suspension and powertrain when into it.
23. The wheels (I believe early models had 15" wheels). Only the '93 had the factory chrome wheel option.
24. I installed the SuperChips super chip and a K&N filter which raised the Northstars HP to over 305; possibly more.
Some people like to say the '93 was slightly cheapened by the loss of the BOSE system and the replacement of the Recardos with standard Eldorado seats but its my opinion that only reduces the longterm maintence of the vehicle by the fact that parts for those items are readily available and cheaper to replace/repair. I guess its a tradeoff.

Remember, I'm biased towards '93s because its the only Allante I've owned, but I've owned many Cadillacs over the years and this one so far is overall the coolest one of them all (the '62 convert w/buckets seats is a close second though).

Since I became an owner only one year ago I've had no serious issues or repairs required. I've had to replace the rearview mirror but that was at no cost. I had to replace the CD player but that is common on older Cadillacs and Buicks (they used the same model).

Overall I have absolutely no complaints.

My brother has owned 3 Allantes; an '89, a '90 and currently owns a '93. If you asked him I believe he'd say his favorite was the '90. He bought it new off the showroom floor at the time.

Scroll through posts at this link http://www.allante.com/discussion_frm.htm
You might begin to see a pattern emerge that fits your liking, or not.

..rickko..

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Re: Best Allante to buy?

well one thing is for sure i want to avoid the bose audio system at all cost
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Re: Best Allante to buy?

I found an 1987 today for $7000. I'm going back to drive it on Saturday. The car looks real good even though the paint is a little faded, the interior looks good. Looks real good under the hood. The dealer is telling me that the 4100 runs strong. I'm looking forward to Saturday! This pic is not the car, just one I like. Hardtop included........Tom

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Re: Best Allante to buy?

Hello and welcome ThomasO,

There are many Allante owners on the AAG Board that might join you when you look at the one you found if they live near you and the car. Let us know where you and the car are located and maybe someone will offer to join you when you check it out. If that does not work out, then try to determine as much vehicle history as you can thru maintence records and history codes.

Also try to determine from the seller if he/she maintained the brakes and cooling system.

Good Luck,

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Re: Best Allante to buy?

Thanks A. North, as it's turning out, I may not get back there till next week. Something has come up and I think I will be out of town, so it will now be next week I believe. I live in Asheville, NC. and will go check out this car ASAP. If anyone lives in the area, I'd be pleased to have them come along. Thanks again for the suggestion........Tom
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Hello and welcome ThomasO,

There are many Allante owners on the AAG Board that might join you when you look at the one you found if they live near you and the car. Let us know where you and the car are located and maybe someone will offer to join you when you check it out. If that does not work out, then try to determine as much vehicle history as you can thru maintence records and history codes.

Also try to determine from the seller if he/she maintained the brakes and cooling system.

Good Luck,

Don
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Re: Best Allante to buy?

So, did any of you guys that were looking at Allantes pick one up?
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Re: Best Allante to buy?

I own an '87 Allante and love the car... it's a slick looking convertible with great styling.
But, the '87-'89s were a bit maintenance prone.
Things got better in '90, '91, and '92.
Most Allante aficionadoes consider the 90.5 model to be a great car! Not quite as "finished" as the '93 was, when Cadillac began to get it right.
I'd say, if money's an issue get the 90.5, if not, I'd get a good, low mileage '93 model.
Check out the Allante Appreciation Group on the web. They have a great site at: allante@pointers.com or www.allante.us
It is certainly a unique machine and will get lots of stares and folks strolling up to ask, "What the hell's that?"

Cheers... Misty145
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"Design of latches changed on Feb 1990 (90 ½ models) and those tops are known as the Phase II and were used until the 1992 model."

This is my first post. I've been lurking for some time while I was hunting for an Allante. I am happy to say that I purchased a 92, champagne/neutral with 84,000 miles Sunday and I'm on my way to California tomorrow to pick it up. I live in Vancouver BC. This site has been a great help in deciding what year to buy. After reading all the info, particularly in this thread, I decided on the 91/92. I am already looking for a hardtop for the car as we get a fair amount of rain here. My first question to all of you is will the earlier tops fit my car because of the different latches??
Thanks very much
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Welcome and Congrats on your new to you Allante! Older tops can be converted to fit your Allante, but you should try to get one year specific if possible for best fit. You might want to lurk on the other Allante specific web sites for more information. Lots of good people and advice to be had there. Be prepared to give her the once over several times when you get her home. They just love attention and will bite your wallet if left unattended. Most of all, drop that top and feel the wind blow through whats left of your hair if your like me. Lets see some pics when you get her all cleaned up and ready for the road.
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Re: Best Allante to buy?

I made it home this afternoon. 1350 miles, 64.5 mph and 23.4 mpg. I'm pleased with the mpg considering the speed. What a GREAT handling car. I never drove one on the highway until Wednesday when I picked it up. I am very impressed. I spent 13 hours in the car yesterday without any back pain or tiredness. I attribute that to those great seats. Anyway, the car has a few "Allante quirks"...cd doesn't work, speakers buzzy (static) and the trans doesn't like shifting back to OD after it kicks down to third. The car was from the LA area so the interior needs a good cleaning which I will do tomorrow. Once she's all cleaned up I'll post a pic or two. By the way, yes I am of the age where the wind has no hair to blow. Sure saves a lot on brushes and combs! LOL Thanks again to everyone's assistance with their posts. I wouldn't have bought an Allante without it.
Cheers
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I made it home this afternoon. 1350 miles, 64.5 mph and 23.4 mpg. I'm pleased with the mpg considering the speed. What a GREAT handling car. ..., speakers buzzy ...
Congrats! Sounds like you had a great trip!

One tip on the speakers. I've heard from a shop that that is the audio sub-contractor for the Cadillac dealers in my area for Bose speakers in GM cars this one mantra- Don't use them until you get them fixed. The more they are used, the worse they'll get and the more expensive it will be to repair them.

Apparently, that static noise you hear is the first sign of them failing. In the beginning the repairs are fairly easy, only a few components need replacing. If you continue to use them they will eventually require entire modular (amplifier I think) replacements which gets real spendy.

Hope you enjoy your new car as much as many of us Allante owners enjoy ours!

Good luck!
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