Sun visor removal... How?

[Faded Crest]

Hello,

I am going to attempt the "fuel line fix" on my floppy passenger side sun visor. (1989). I can't get the visor off the rod. What am I missing? I certainly don't want to force it an break something.

Thanks,
Marc

[Stealth]

Originally Posted by Faded Crest

Hello,

I am going to attempt the "fuel line fix" on my floppy passenger side sun visor. (1989). I can't get the visor off the rod. What am I missing? I certainly don't want to force it an break something.

Thanks,
Marc

Not trying to discourage you, but once you do that fix, you will be having to repeat that fix again soon. It is not lasting. Depending on the ambient the car is subjected to. In the warm States one season, in the shady NE maybe two maybe three.

However, there are lasting remedies:
1. Use the infamous zinzin potato chip clips.
2. Buy and install the visor clutch.
3. Remove the visors.
4. Move up to the Phase II.

After 5 years of tangling with this floppy visor issue, banging my forehead countless times, trying to look around them as they flopped down, and finally ending with the breakage of TWO map light assemblies ($95 each plus labor), i finally opted for remedies #3 and #4. Fail proof .. guaranteed.

Once the last map light assy got broken, again, the potato chip clips become useless. I wonder if I can sell them on ebay as "Allante floppy visor correction devices."





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[wcoates]

Can not for a second believe that I paid $100 for two small pieces of plastic. (visor clutches - as seen on tv err I mean Ebay). work like a charm.

[Faded Crest]

How could something so stupid cause such problems? I would love to get the visor off to see what the problem is... Maybe I can come up with something new.

[Stealth]

Originally Posted by Faded Crest

How could something so stupid cause such problems? I would love to get the visor off to see what the problem is... Maybe I can come up with something new.

How you ask?
man ohh man, have you hit a button.
I am not kidding when I say THAT was a big issue on my decision to get the Phase II car.

they hired some kid out of HS to design something unique, .. oh, its unique alright.
The Phase-I Allantes is world renown and famous for the "floppy visors" .. Google "floppy visor"
and you get what? you guess it .. cadillac allante.

The visor clutch Bill mentioned, goes for about $90 - $100,
the zinzin potato chip clips go for $3,

they been ripped apart, dissected, modified, glued, bangi corded, stapled, duck taped .. just about anything but nailed .. and i was getting ready for that one .. but my kid broke the map light when he forgot to remove the potato chip clip as he slang the visor .. once, OK, twice .. the he** with it.

It took me but about 10 minutes to remove the visors and toss them in the trash can, in perfect shape, except they dont stay up.

the surgical tube thing has been done about 400 times, with about 99% failure over 36 months, and took a whole weekend to do it .. I can overhaul an engine in less than that.

ok ok ok ..
that was the April rant.



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[Faded Crest]

I made an accidental discovery...

I removed the vanity and was trying (unsuccessfully) to remove the visor from the rod. I left it disassembled and drove the car... Guess what... the visor now stays up (at least so far) The extra weight of the vanity mirror aparantly was the straw that broke the visors back. By removing it, it seems to be just light enough to stay put. Could it be?... We'll see.

Marc

[Stealth]

Originally Posted by Faded Crest

I made an accidental discovery...

I removed the vanity and was trying (unsuccessfully) to remove the visor from the rod. I left it disassembled and drove the car... Guess what... the visor now stays up (at least so far) The extra weight of the vanity mirror aparantly was the straw that broke the visors back. By removing it, it seems to be just light enough to stay put. Could it be?... We'll see.

Marc

Marc,

Yes, they are way too heavy for their own good. In the past there have even been some kidding about attaching a helium balloon. The visors are well stuffed with heaviness.

Once, I considered opening up the visor and removing off weight. Then it occurred to me, that all that work for a visor, was simply not on my schedule. But that is most likely, part of the permanent solution if you so desire to pursue. By opening up the package, you will also find the internal sleeve component that wears out and you can then deal with that in conjunction with removal of weight.

BTW, I must congratulate you on having a well running car. Logic tells me that you car must be doing very well. Otherwise, spending your free time fixing other issues, you might have quickly reached the level that many of us reached - the potato chip clips.

Should you decide to proceed, please take lots of pictures. Documented success with "pictorial procedures" are most welcomed in the Allante circles.




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[Faded Crest]

If I get into the visors more deeply, I will document my findings...

Yes, I am fortunate to have a very good running car. I bought it at the right price from a widow. GM factory new motor with around 55K, (106K overall) 1 year old tranny, all new brakes. Has a good soft top and the hard top.

Everything that is wrong with the car is what her "kidiot" did to it. Damaged the wiper switch plate by mounting a CD changer, hacked up wires, lost keys, tried to disconnect the securty system by removing door jamb switches, broken trim, lots of broken trim clips, etc. Nothing that can't be brought back, so indeed it is the little things I have to deal with. Worst mechanical issue right now is needing new struts and front tires.

Marc

[Faded Crest]

So no one really answered my question... Anyone know how the visors come off?

Marc

[Stealth]

Originally Posted by Faded Crest

So no one really answered my question... Anyone know how the visors come off?

Marc

That is very simple.
they are held by two phillips screws that you can see in the soft rubber around the visor shaft. those two screws also hold the anchor for the latches.

once you remove the two screws, pull back the rubber, the visor has a clip at the end of the bushing end, pop it off and there you have it.

note:
you must RESEAL that rubber end over the top channel where the top rests .. or you shall get baptised every time it rains.



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[Faded Crest]

Thank you Stealth,

I know many minds have tackled the floppy visors, but I must try!!!

[Stealth]

Originally Posted by Faded Crest

Thank you Stealth,

I know many minds have tackled the floppy visors, but I must try!!!

There are a few thousand Phase-I Allante owners that would like you to succeed, it is said that becoming a rocket scientist may be easier.

At one time I did considered replacing the visors, map light and rear view mirror with a Phase-II assembly .. the Phase-II dont have this issue. But cheap they are not. As long as one keeps the latches it be fine.

Which brings me to my other brainstorm idea .. if one installs the Phase-I latch receivers onto a Phase-II car, one could either use a Phase-I or a Phase-II hard top .. except, I dont know if the Phase-II hard top cars have the mounting plate for the Phase-I receivers.

remember .. let your efforts be valuable .. take pictures all the way.


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note:
you must RESEAL that rubber end over the top channel where the top rests .. or you shall get baptized every time it rains.






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[stomper]

Originally Posted by Faded Crest

Thank you Stealth,

I know many minds have tackled the floppy visors, but I must try!!!

Are you having any luck with this project?