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Old 04-16-08, 10:48 PM
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Re: selling off the 1993 models ...

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haven't been far off I'm sad to say. Voodoo whodoo!

Wait a minute that's good for buyer's heh!
darn right .. remember my latest acquisition? voodoo doll!






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Re: selling off the 1993 models ...

ah ha i've got a lucky 92.
( by short supply and high demand maybe one day i will break even)
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ah ha i've got a lucky 92.
( by short supply and high demand maybe one day i will break even)
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Only if you got it for under $3,500 .. its value in parts.





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well, i can still dream.

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well, i can still dream.

jono
.. you are 58?

you will be 80 before the car is anything but a car, and even then .. maybe.
buying a Allante for collectible or investment? BAD IDEA.

take what you paid, amortize that amount at lets say .. 5 % annually ..
how much does the car have to be worth when you turn 80 ?
Is not going to happen.

Just drive the darn thing until the wheels fall off, part it out and move on.
no Allante I have ever seen, is worth anymore than that ..
the guys over yonder climb on their soap boxes and blow a lot of hot air
on unrealistic Allante values .. no one is even close ...

sure, its a good looker .. gets a lot of praise .. it handles well .. PERIOD!


the forgots ..

- it is a really HIGH MAINTENANCE car ..
- parts are really expensive ..
- it is not your typical vintage hot rod one can make a go at it with common parts.

- I got two of these cars and I would recommend to the average person against buying one,
for sure NEVER EVER own one as the only car. You gotta be a car person with tools and better
have another car for regular use.

- All of this applies to all 7 years models.





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Re: selling off the 1993 models ...

Some of these guys are in panic seeing the cost of the cars or the parts decrease by leaps and bounds. There are a lot of sick Allantes out there, the sooner they get taken off the road, the better off we are with the survivors. Its like cutting down the sick trees in a forest.

The problem is that many are also misrepresenting these cars being sold to get them off their hands. It is a dangerous time to buy, but if you know what you are doing, you can make end up with a nice car.


for the sell off of the 1993 models, read this:


http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...here-sale.html (The time to buy a Cadillac Allante is here - FOR-SALE ? L@@K in CRAIGSLIST .. buyt !)



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Re: selling off the 1993 models ...

hey stealth what are some of the differences between 90.5 (phase 2 top i think there called) & 91/92 ??
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Re: selling off the 1993 models ...

going by memory, there is little if any real differences between the 1990.5, 1991, and 1992 cars.
for sure, different colors were available.

probably the biggest significance is the low quantity of cars made (1,933) for 1992 since that assy line was shut down very early to crank out a huge (by Allante standards) quantity (4,668) of 1993 models.

'87
3,363

'88
2,569

'89
3,296

'90
3,101

'91
2,500

'92
1,933

'93
4,668


there is a lot of discussion on the different models in this thread:
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...light=phase+II (Best Allante to buy?)

for more, try a google search for " allante xyz facts " but part of that is also included on the link-thread.







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Re: selling off the 1993 models ...

I wonder how many phase 2 compared to Phase 1 in 1990 were made. How early or late in production was it switched. If it was late there might not be many phase 2's around ?
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I wonder how many phase 2 compared to Phase 1 in 1990 were made. How early or late in production was it switched. If it was late there might not be many phase 2's around ?
The switch was made in Feb .. I believe that was about 1/3 into the production, about 1,000, for 1990, Phase-I cars, about 2,000 Phase-II cars. The real numbers are unk. The total for 1990 was 3,101 cars.

That is how I come up with about 10,000 PHASE I cars.

9,228 Allante cars for 1987 1988 1989, PHASE 1
1,000 for 1990 Phase I - estimated
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10,225 Phase-I cars, there abouts - ALL WITH factory HARD TOPS.


4,433 Allante cars for 1991, 1992, PHASE 2
2,000 for 1990 Phase-2 - estimated - usually referred as the 1990.5 or 1990 1/2 Allante
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6,400 Phase-II cars, unk number with Hard Tops


4,668 Phase-III Allante cars for 1993, unk number with Hard Tops


If you like to estimate how many of these cars are on the road, go to the Insurance Institute for the statistical fall out. The 1993 are probably doing a tiny bit better than their estimated fall out, the 1987 to 1992, are not. BTW, the 1st year model that will become near impossible to find, WILL BE the 1992, specially the OEM FACTORY HARD TOP models with VINs of NU10XXXX - There were only 1,933 cars made in 1992, take a 1/3 of those surviving today, and 1/3 of those survivors wit Hard Tops, we got around 200 Hard Top NU10XXXX (1992) cars on the road.

Keep in mind that rarely is a Hard Top sent to the junkyard for crushing / recycle. Most Allante cars go to the junkyard for mechanical issues or a front / rear /side collisions where the hard top is just fine. Roll overs are rare, really rare.

If one assumes 90% survival of the Hard Tops, there are around 11,000 Hard Tops out there, on garage rafters, storage rooms, etc .. to dress the surviving 6,000 to 7,000 cars ? These tops, all 3 phases, can all be adapted (starting at around $25) to fit any Allante.

Interesting notes: in the past weeks,
** From 500 to 700 cars are FOR-SALE at any one time, that being about 10% of the survivors.
** Approximately 4 cars are parted each week.


If I am wrong on the quantity of 1990 Phase 1 cars, I am wrong on the low side, meaning there would be more .. more PHASE-I hard tops than I estimated.

Last note .. the 1991 and 1992, for reasons that no one understands, are driven much more, are destroyed, are severely abused, are trashed more than all of the other years combined. There are a lot of 200,000 mile 1992 Allante cars.


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Anyone wants to prove me wrong, bring the facts on.
IMO, the Allante is no more special than any other Cadillac when it comes to maintenence, accidents and survivility.
The Insurance Institute statistics, IMHO, DO APPLY!





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