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500, 472, 425, 368 Discussion, How much to refresh a 472/500? in Cadillac Engine Technical Discussion; Originally Posted by terrible one Pretty expensive, eh? I need new bushings for everything having to do with the front ...
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    Re: How much to refresh a 472/500?

    Quote Originally Posted by terrible one
    Pretty expensive, eh? I need new bushings for everything having to do with the front suspension. How much were yours, if you don't mind me asking?
    I cant locate the receipt (dont worry im in their computers) but my total bill was around 1.1k thats with shocks and springs, new brake hoses, ball joints bushings, link kits... everything.

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    Re: How much to refresh a 472/500?

    Quote Originally Posted by JTraik
    I cant locate the receipt (dont worry im in their computers) but my total bill was around 1.1k thats with shocks and springs, new brake hoses, ball joints bushings, link kits... everything.
    Wow, I'm glad I did the work myself when I redid the frontend on my Camaro. The bill was less than that, even with switching to larger brakes.

    Back to Caddies though...


    I think we need to hear more back from Night Wolf on what kind of car this engine is going into.
    You can go all the way from checking to see if the engine rotates and sticking it in as-is to a complete teardown and rebuild. Who knows what it needs?
    I would start with micing the crank and rod journals, make sure they aren't scratched, then check clearances with some plastigauge. If the clearances are good, torque back to spec and move on. From there, I'd get the pan back on, fill it with oil and hook up a starter. Spin it over with the starter and a good battery and check that it builds oil pressure. Then do a compression test and see what that shows. If compression is good and pretty even between cylinders, put it in.
    Of course this is me. I don't plan to hotrod my Caddy, I like it as a refined luxo-barge. I will consider headwork eventually, but no big cams for me.

    Right now I have a class to get to, so I will post this for now and come back in a bit...

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    Re: How much to refresh a 472/500?

    I just need the bushings for the arms, and then the new shocks will come with theirs. Shouldn't be much at all.

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    Re: How much to refresh a 472/500?

    Quote Originally Posted by BluEyes
    Wow, I'm glad I did the work myself when I redid the frontend on my Camaro. The bill was less than that, even with switching to larger brakes.
    Hey man, thats just for the parts, i have to install it all!

    Terrible One... the balljoints and shocks/springs are what hit me the hardest. If your just replacing bushings... LCA(2) UCA(4) Strutrod(2) then it should only be around a couple hundred if that... im doing a restoration though so i am replacing every wear item that i can. Have fun with the bushings they are the PITAs of PITAs to get out, hope you have a nice press! Oh and make sure you accompany a nice pickle fork with at least a 3lb sledge for freeing up those spindles.

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    Re: How much to refresh a 472/500?

    Haha, wow...sounds ummm fun?

    Thanks for the information man, I appreciate the heads up.

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    Re: How much to refresh a 472/500?

    Jusy some thoughts:
    I'm currently debating a rebuild of the 500 engine my 76 Coupe De Ville.
    I have condidered a replacement anmd have looked at buying an engine from a scrap yard. I've done a lot of research and I find that these old engines that have been sitting around are not really a viable proposition. Blocks are available from specialists i.e. Maximum Torque for $100 and that's about what their worth. Having spoken to quite a few 500 specialists, they consensus is that everything will need replacing.
    So, it will probably be prudent to just build an engine from scratch usung ally heads, uprated pistons/rods/bearing, improved valve, timing gears. HEi etc.
    the biggest problem is cost. All the ingredients are out there but in the end the cost (if you include your own time @ $20 per hour) of DIY which requires specialist tools, probably a full tool shop etc., will work out very expensive. IMHO buying a complete rebuilt engine is probably the best route. The guys that build these engines know what they are doing, have the facilities not available to us mere mortals and guarantee their work.
    My intenetion is to have a go at pulling my heads and giving my engine a TEO but its not for the faint hearted. Fortunately my 76 CDV is in great ciondition and is not my main form of transport. Good luck everyone.

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    Re: How much to refresh a 472/500?

    Where do you think MTS gets their blocks to sell? They don't just fall out of the sky over Wisconsin.

    "Ally" meaning aluminum (right?) heads is a retarded idea on anything but a race or serious street motor. Especially at $2k.

    If there's nothing wrong with the old cast pistons and rods and you can get away with just a hone, then why the hell spend a grand to replace them on a mild engine?

    You think we should all go out and buy a custom forged crank too while we're at it?

    Sorry, you're just plain wrong.

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