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    Re: 2014 Cadillac CTS: This Is It

    The lead designer should be fired. Why would you pull your brand back to 2001 with a DTS rear? Are you even trying or are you in a tenured position after a real designer at the company brought the brand back to life. Don't smother yourself Cadillac. It's not looking good.

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    Re: 2014 Cadillac CTS: This Is It

    I think it's the rear tail lights that really ruin it...they are short and stubby. Nothing like the tall sleak looking tail lights of the current CTS, which are reminiscent of the old Cadillacs with tail fins. It's those retro styling influences that let you know it's a Cadillac when you're a quarter mile away. I also agree with another poster that the license plate section is too wide. I really hope they change the rear design a bit. I can't see enough of the front to make a decision. In any case, I think the new BMW's are beautiful compared to what I've seen of this. I expected the XTS to be a little boring, but not the ATS and CTS, which is what they are in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayGhost
    I think it's the rear tail lights that really ruin it...they are short and stubby. Nothing like the tall sleak looking tail lights of the current CTS, which are reminiscent of the old Cadillacs with tail fins. It's those retro styling influences that let you know it's a Cadillac when you're a quarter mile away. I also agree with another poster that the license plate section is too wide. I really hope they change the rear design a bit. I can't see enough of the front to make a decision. In any case, I think the new BMW's are beautiful compared to what I've seen of this. I expected the XTS to be a little boring, but not the ATS and CTS, which is what they are in my opinion.
    The rear license plate section is wide to accommodate European tags.

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    Re: 2014 Cadillac CTS: This Is It

    Don't the Mercedes have tons of electrical problems like the BMWs? The word on the street is that the mechanics cannot keep up with the problems. (My comment is based on several comments from M B owners.) (Hearsay??)

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    Re: 2014 Cadillac CTS: This Is It

    @ gohawks63

    Quote Originally Posted by gohawks63 View Post
    The rear license plate section is wide to accommodate European tags.
    That would be the most weird design choice ever.

    1) Most european countries offer us size license plates for imported us cars.
    2) Cadillac sales in Europe are non existent, and will always be that way. No European in their right mind would ever trade their luxury German car for a Cadillac. The quality is still not on the same level (the xts interior comes close but doesn't surpass or match the Germans, and the sheet metal and paint used is no way near the German quality), and the resale value of a Cadillac in Europe resembles the sale numbers, so is also non existent.

    When i first saw the back of the xts, i thought it was ugly and hideous.
    But that was nothing compared to the atrocity they have designed to be the back of the new cts.

    If the new Escalade is at the same level of disappointment as the new xts and cts are to me, i will switch brands and never look back.

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    Re: 2014 Cadillac CTS: This Is It

    Quote Originally Posted by meniisoc View Post
    @ gohawks63




    1) Most european countries offer us size license plates for imported us cars.
    Sorry, this is not correct. In the EU this is the standard size ( in cm ):

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    No exception for imported car`s !

    Only for Classic ( US- ) Cars you can have smaller sizes :
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    The " H " is for Historic car

    Best Regards

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    Re: 2014 Cadillac CTS: This Is It

    ...a little offtopic, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Superbenzin View Post
    Only for Classic ( US- ) Cars you can have smaller sizes :
    Attachment 103819

    I don't think so...and there are exceptions sometimes... (...das bezweifel ich, Ausnahmen gibts immer wieder...)

    ...not only classic us cars...my STS got a 28 x 20 cm...my TA has a us size license plate...

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    Re: 2014 Cadillac CTS: This Is It

    Congratulations PontiacV8

    off topic :
    Generous licensing authorities in Niedersachsen !
    Here in NRW impossible or only after demonstration
    and clarification by an expert, whether the reconstruction on Cars
    reasonable anyway and then only for rear, forward must
    be an EU licence plate.

    Best Regards

    So großzügige Zulassungsstellen in Niedersachsen ?
    Bei uns in NRW nahezu unmöglich oder nur nach Vorführung
    und Klärung durch einen Sachverständigen, ob der Umbau am KFZ
    zumutbar ist und dann sowieso nur für hinten, vorne muss
    ein EU-Kennzeichen hin.
    2005 an meinem Mustang ging das noch mit Kleinkraftradkennz., beim
    2010 Camaro haben die das rigoros abgelehnt, beim Caddillac paßt
    es halt.

    Grüsse Heinz

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    Quote Originally Posted by meniisoc
    @ gohawks63



    That would be the most weird design choice ever.

    1) Most european countries offer us size license plates for imported us cars.
    2) Cadillac sales in Europe are non existent, and will always be that way. No European in their right mind would ever trade their luxury German car for a Cadillac. The quality is still not on the same level (the xts interior comes close but doesn't surpass or match the Germans, and the sheet metal and paint used is no way near the German quality), and the resale value of a Cadillac in Europe resembles the sale numbers, so is also non existent.

    When i first saw the back of the xts, i thought it was ugly and hideous.
    But that was nothing compared to the atrocity they have designed to be the back of the new cts.

    If the new Escalade is at the same level of disappointment as the new xts and cts are to me, i will switch brands and never look back.
    Europe isn't the only consideration. China is a big market for GM too.

    I personally wouldn't call the XTS or Cadillac's new design direction hideous, I just think they have gone a bit "less bold" in their designs. Then again the Germans and Lexus can hardly be considered bold either. I just personally like cars that are unique. I was drawn to the CTS and especially the coupe because there is nothing else quite like it on the road. Now I'm afraid that the new design direction will cause Cadillac's to blend in with everything else.

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    Re: 2014 Cadillac CTS: This Is It

    Latest photo of the 2014 CTS (circled in red) without camouflage, undergoing winter driving tests.
    Obviously difficult/impossible to see much detail. We may see further leaked photos as the reveal date approaches.



    http://jalopnik.com/cadillac-acciden...-fac-151057844

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    To me, the ATS was disappointing in terms of styling. The XTS would be perfect if the hood was a little longer instead of the stubby look ( I know it's stubby because of the front wheel drive) and if they tweaked the roofline a little bit. The XTS is beautiful from the front and back it's the side view that ruins it. The ELR is absolutely gorgeous and they did a great job with that design. The new CTS looks awesome from the front (as I can see in the picture) but they should of put the XTS rear on it with the fin taillights. The back of the new CTS looks just like the first generation CTS. The other thing I do not like is the stance of the rear, one thing about the BMW 5 is that it has a great stance...

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    Re: 2014 Cadillac CTS: This Is It

    Quote Originally Posted by BEarle View Post
    To me, the ATS was disappointing in terms of styling. The XTS would be perfect if the hood was a little longer instead of the stubby look ( I know it's stubby because of the front wheel drive) and if they tweaked the roofline a little bit. The XTS is beautiful from the front and back it's the side view that ruins it. The ELR is absolutely gorgeous and they did a great job with that design. The new CTS looks awesome from the front (as I can see in the picture) but they should of put the XTS rear on it with the fin taillights. The back of the new CTS looks just like the first generation CTS. The other thing I do not like is the stance of the rear, one thing about the BMW 5 is that it has a great stance...
    Well said Bearle, as that echoes my thoughts exactly on the recent Caddys as well. I've been trying to figure the right words for these spy photos of the new CTS. Although I'm a coupe man, this generation (2008-2013) CTS whether it be the sedan or coupe just has a great stance to it. They helped defined sporty luxury with this model and its stance really helps in that look. This gen has a unique look and I like that they don't look like German cars but are an excellent alternative to the German cars. Looks wise, the BMW, Audi, and Mercs all have appealing features but they have a German look to it (that's not a negative thing, as the same can be said for Lexus, Acura, Infiniti). Cadillac, with the CTS seemed to bridge the gap between a distinctly American car, but filled with no-nonsense Germanness and, yes, Japanese reliability. I just don't want Cadillac to screw it up that's all.

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    Re: 2014 Cadillac CTS: This Is It

    I get it...you all hate the back end. But the front end is somewhat puzzling to me (even though I like it). Below the ATS looking headlamp assembly, is a J shaped metal/led type trim that curves to the left. Am I perceiving it wrong?

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    They are taking design cues from the CIEL concept. The front end is almost all CIEL, the way the headlights curve and the upright big grill etc. they should of added design from the CIEL rear which I think is the most beautiful rear I have ever seen on a car.

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    Re: 2014 Cadillac CTS: This Is It

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superbenzin View Post
    Sorry, this is not correct. In the EU this is the standard size ( in cm ):


    No exception for imported car`s !

    Only for Classic ( US- ) Cars you can have smaller sizes :
    Can you explain me then, how can i have a 1992 seville and a 2008 sts and a 2012 escalade with us size license plates in the netherlands in my garage when i'm completely wrong?
    Is the 2012 escalade a classic import car?
    And the other 2008 sts and 7 other 2012 escalades in my company, all classic imports?

    Ever looked at the tiny italian license plates?
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