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Thread: Stick or Auto

  1. #106
    atdeneve is offline Cadillac Owners Connoisseur
    Join Date
    Jan 2006

    Re: Stick or Auto

    Those numbers only indicate the relative 'mechanical advantage' that the manual has in 6th gear. The auto has the 'mechanical advantage' in the lower gears. Even with the lower differential ratio.

  2. #107
    Razorecko is offline Cadillac Owners Connoisseur
    Automobile(s): 2009 CTS-V , 2010 SRX 2.8T
    Join Date
    Feb 2008

    Re: Stick or Auto

    we'll see which trans has the advantage when the modding starts to happen

  3. #108
    marktanner is offline Cadillac Owners Enthusiast
    Automobile(s): 2017 ATS-V Sedan, Vector Blue/Black, 6MT
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Atlanta, GA

    Re: Stick or Auto

    I am a manual "purist", and I have an '08 CTS 3.6 DI FE3 M6. This car has a foot operated parking brake, which I thought I would hate, but don't really use that much, and haven't had any problems not using it here in hilly Atlanta. I have driven CTS DI automatic loaners, and still prefer the stick. Plus, even though the stick 3.6 DI has lower EPA ratings than the auto, I consistently achieve 1-2 mpg better in my car than the auto, even when I manually shifted the auto and used 2nd gear starts, which did help. This was important here recently when we had a severe gas shortage. The stick also cost $1300 less.

    Looking at the invoices of stick V2 vs auto, the stick has EPA ratings of 13/19 vs 12/18 of the auto, and the gas guzzler tax is "only" $1300 vs $2600 for the auto, which yields the same $1300 saving for the stick as with my car. The stick does weigh 100 lb less per the specs, all off the front, which is good. I believe this puts the stick in a lighter EPA test category, which may account for the better ratings, but should also translate into more mpg in real life as well.

    I know most people shopping this car won't care about mileage that much, but it affects RANGE as well, and that was really important when you couldn't find gas! These cars don't have big tanks as it is, so IMO the stick is truly the way to go.

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