Things I gave up last week selling my really nice STS-V to soon get a CTS-V are: Heated wheel, all heated seats, 3rd zone AC, mirrors that angle down for parking (wasn't aware of this till recently), large trunk, bigger back seat area, a color nav display that is in full view all the time, and a solid sunroof shade.
What I'm gaining: A more modern looking interior (esp at night), more power with greater potential for modding, better handling, cooled seats, and probably a backup camera (hopefully). Did I made the right decision?
But a lot of what I am describing is subjective. One day here, I'll go take some youtube video of me poking my interior in various places so that I can at least just post something concrete rather than getting into a semantic debate about what constitutes "high quality materials" and "fit and finish".
Mileage has a lot to do with it - my wifes base CTS wagon (that coincidentally has a heated steering wheel) has more noises than I initially realized, with the majority of them coming from her standard seats!
The flip side is my new CTSV wagon has no noises, no play in the Recaros and is actually exceptionally quiet inside: I roll up the window and it's like the ignition is almost off. I'm considering Corsas.
Anyway, I personally think that any vehicle with 20+ thousand miles on it is going to have some noise in the same way a house will settle over time. It's just "wear and tear."
For the price difference between an M5 and a V2, one could have a custom interior done in any style (French bordello, etc.) and get all those "cheap" materials removed.
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However, I can likewise understand why some people feel their cars have unacceptable interior noises - just that I'd assume these cars are on their second owner and/or have 20-30K miles on them. Wouldn't be the first time someone bought a certified used car and then found out the previous owner pulled out the entire interior to run a sound system or something (you know, the various reasons as to why things might squeek).
I'd wager that the number of noise complaints on one-owner cars is very small; but then again maybe Cadillac owners have better-than-average hearing sensitivities, and you and I are just on the lower end of the sensitivity bell curve?
I think that the NRA edition would be more collectible. After that the George Jetson package with the infinite gear transmission should be more collectible, but only if you get the vinyl roof covering in white, along with some kind of squirrel tail hanging from the rear view mirror and tennis balls in a stocking hanging from the rear trailer hitch. Then you'll be the pimp's a**. That should do it.Originally Posted by spearfish25
You have to watch out for the dried pea in the seat cushion, that is OEM for all Cadillacs. If you notice it you are disqualified from ever owning another Cadillac and are immediately passed on to BMW and MB.Originally Posted by Random84
Also...look closely at your navigation display when going over bumpy road, or a speed bump or rumble strips. Betcha it vibrates and moves just like mine does. And press on the piece of plastic bezel just below the nav display where there are symbols for Dolby etc. Bet it flexes and feels like cheap plastic, just like mine.
Rattles are just part of the equation.
I love the V. It's an amazing car with amazing performance at an unbeatable price. But let's not pretend it is something that it is not.
Let's not pretend it's anything less than an amazing achievement for pre-bankruptcy GM.
While we're at it, let's not pretend the German starting-under-$40K sedans are perfectly upscale and flawless.
Mine has some noises, like the sunroof creak when it's hot (and in Vegas that's a good part of the year), and a couple squeaky plastic bits every now and then, but it's had these noises since I got it, and it hasn't developed any new ones. So I'm pretty happy about that. Most of the time it's very quiet.
Lets not pretend the German supersedans around 100k are flawless either.....cause they ain't. Their plastic bits will move if you press your thumb into them....I guess that means they are complete garbage.