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2009-2014 Cadillac CTS-V Performance Mods Discussion, Sand Bags in my V" in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2009-2014; Hello V community, Yesterday my area got hit with about 6 to 7 inches of snow in upstate New york. ...
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    Sand Bags in my V"

    Hello V community,
    Yesterday my area got hit with about 6 to 7 inches of snow in upstate New york.
    I already equipped my V-wagon with Blizzack LM-60 winter tires and my rear end still slide around a little so I took the next step which was something my neighbor did. He bought seven 50 pound bags to weigh his back end down of his Camaro SS . As of now i have 360 Lbs in my wagon and she moves like a Tank hardly any sliding of the back end. My question is has anyone else tried this and is ok for the suspension on a short term bases.

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    Re: Sand Bags in my V"

    If you read the pressure/loading sticker on the door, you can probably add around 1000# of weight for the max. Just make sure to put more air in the tires too. If I had a wagon, I'd have a fork lift put a pallet with 700# on it, and you'd still have enough load capacity left for a few people!

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    I know I have less power than you (G8 GT), but I also have quite a bit less weight. I have no issues with my car in the snow with my Micheline X-Ice Xi2s. Never really have to do 2nd gear starts, and don't slide around too much. Also, this is on 225mm wide tires all around (under tired for winter).

    I live in Central CT by the way.

    With around 2000 LBS or more over the rear wheels honestly you shouldn't have that bad of traction issues.


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    Re: Sand Bags in my V"

    Quote Originally Posted by Slizzo View Post
    I know I have less power than you (G8 GT), but I also have quite a bit less weight. I have no issues with my car in the snow with my Micheline X-Ice Xi2s. Never really have to do 2nd gear starts, and don't slide around too much. Also, this is on 225mm wide tires all around (under tired for winter).

    I live in Central CT by the way.

    With around 2000 LBS or more over the rear wheels honestly you shouldn't have that bad of traction issues.


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    Damn, you have the lightest g8 on earth

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    Re: Sand Bags in my V"

    they are a couple hundred pounds apart

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    Re: Sand Bags in my V"

    What is the weight distribution of a V? I'm guessing it's a little snout heavy. My G8 (V6) was almost 50/50 and I had no problems in the snow using undersized (225) winter tires.

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    Re: Sand Bags in my V"

    I had a G8 GT then the V, and both were darn near perfectly balanced on wheel scales. My V was only 50# more in the front; 2150#F/2200#R. BUT, I have a trailer hitch, full-size spare, and a bunch of other weight in my trunk. An easy 100+# I'd guess. I also used the 225s in winter on the G8, and it dug just fine.

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    Re: Sand Bags in my V"

    Quote Originally Posted by stl_ls1gto View Post
    Damn, you have the lightest g8 on earth
    Come on now, the math is easy.

    4000LBS vehicle.
    4 wheels.
    I think you can guess about how much weight is over each wheel on a car that is near 50/50 weight distribution....

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    Re: Sand Bags in my V"

    The one odd quirk with the G8 was while it's great that the battery is in the trunk to help weight distribution, since it's really a Holden Commodore the battery is on the wrong side.

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    Re: Sand Bags in my V"

    Quote Originally Posted by mr weather View Post
    The one odd quirk with the G8 was while it's great that the battery is in the trunk to help weight distribution, since it's really a Holden Commodore the battery is on the wrong side.
    Not really when you think about it. In Australia the drive sits on the right side of the car, the battery sits on the left to offset the weight of the driver somewhat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr weather View Post
    The one odd quirk with the G8 was while it's great that the battery is in the trunk to help weight distribution
    Also keeps it away from engine heat which kills batteries. A lot of newer cars are built this way.

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    Re: Sand Bags in my V"

    Quote Originally Posted by Slizzo View Post
    Not really when you think about it. In Australia the drive sits on the right side of the car, the battery sits on the left to offset the weight of the driver somewhat.
    I was trying subtle humour but I guess I failed. The point was that the battery should be on the right side for North American cars but since the G8 was an .AU export it's on the left (opposite the driver).

    And yes, I know why batteries are showing up in the trunk more and more: heat. Although I'm guessing space is another reason as engine bays get smaller and more crowded.

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    Re: Sand Bags in my V"

    Quote Originally Posted by mr weather View Post
    I was trying subtle humour but I guess I failed. The point was that the battery should be on the right side for North American cars but since the G8 was an .AU export it's on the left (opposite the driver).

    And yes, I know why batteries are showing up in the trunk more and more: heat. Although I'm guessing space is another reason as engine bays get smaller and more crowded.
    True, however when you look under the hood of the G8 there's quite a bit of room there. Same goes with the CTS-V, however there's all that plastic covering everything and prohibiting you from getting a good view.

    Only real "issue" otherwise is how far back the motor sits in the engine bay; makes it a little more difficult to get to those rear 2 plugs. But I'll take the space and weight savings of a good OHV motor over one of those "fancy" OHC motors.

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    Re: Sand Bags in my V"

    Doing this makes a car very tail heavy. That can be a problem when the rear end does start to slide. Cars with a rearward weight distribution tend to swap ends pretty easily (Porsche 911s are the classic example). If you really want to weigh the car down for traction, you should throw the ballast on the floor in the back seat, and try and get the extra mass as close to the car's center of gravity as possible.

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    Re: Sand Bags in my V"

    To reply directly to the OP: I am entering winter 2 with my V wagon. The only extra weight I have in the rear is my spare tire. I have no issues whatsoever with driving in the snow. While the wagon can handle 360 pounds in the rear, maybe you don't need that much. My spare wheel/tire setup weighs probably less than 50 pounds. Are you running narrow tires in the rear? That would help as well. I use a square 255 40 19 set of Blizzaks on stock rims.

    PS F/R weight ratio for the wagon is 51/49 according to Cadillac....better than the sedan.

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