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2009-2014 Cadillac CTS-V Performance Mods Discussion, If you're not driving on Michelin Pilot SUPER SPORTS you must pick up a set! in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2009-2014; I've got about 580 rwhp and I have 295 PS2 on the rear. They were great in Louisiana where periodic ...
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    I've got about 580 rwhp and I have 295 PS2 on the rear. They were great in Louisiana where periodic rain washes the road. I'm out in dusty New Mexico right now 4000+ altitude thus significant power reduction. But with the dust and oil on the road its like the ice I drove on growing up in Michigan. Crazy slippery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgp6373
    Well I have 640rwhp and with the pilot ss I can put full throttle in 2nd gear, with the old ps2 i would spin well into 3rd gear even 4th . So yes they makes huge difference
    So you're likely comparing your new SSs to your out going, heat cycled, worn PS2s?

    That kind of difference isn't explained by PS2 vs SS if conditions are the same and both tire sets are new. Just not true. Sorry.

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    SS better.

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    No I'm comparing the two sets of ps2 that I had That even when stock the v had traction issues at full throttle, I have had my v since new so I do know the difference, the ss is a far superior tire as far as traction in the dry

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    I'm looking forward to trying them. I've been pretty impressed with the PS2s. The RE-11s I had before were good tires especially once they were warmed up but even the PS2s feel like an improvement. A friend just put some SSs on the front of his BMW Z M and is autox'ing tomorrow. Excited to see how they impact his handling.

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    Re: If you're not driving on Michelin Pilot SUPER SPORTS you must pick up a set!

    Will a 295 fit on the rear of a 9.5" sedan wheel without bulging up in the centre of the tire?

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    Re: If you're not driving on Michelin Pilot SUPER SPORTS you must pick up a set!

    Quote Originally Posted by ninja44 View Post
    Will a 295 fit on the rear of a 9.5" sedan wheel without bulging up in the centre of the tire?
    You'd be right at the very limit and may get some strange wear patterns. Ideally you'd run about a 265 on a 9.5" rim and a 295 on a 10". Road and Track just had a great little piece this month on how tire widths impact tread contact patch. There is a sweet spot for each vehicle. Too narrow and you get a larger front/rear contact rectangle that favors acceleration and braking at the expense of cornering grip. Swing over to the wider side and you get better lateral grip at the expense of cornering and braking.

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    I've seen 305 35 MT on a sedan. Does low 11s in a quarter.

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    I'm running the 295 ss on a 10.5inch wide rim, the tire guys I talked to said the pilot ss fits wider than other tires

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgp6373
    Well I have 640rwhp and with the pilot ss I can put full throttle in 2nd gear, with the old ps2 i would spin well into 3rd gear even 4th . So yes they makes huge difference
    SS just have so much more to give before you feel them start to let go. Straight line hookup ability is much better than PS2's. I've never seen an owner who didn't feel the same.

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    How much longer do they really last?
    My last car was trending about 50% better mileage than other maximum performance tires.

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    Re: If you're not driving on Michelin Pilot SUPER SPORTS you must pick up a set!

    Quote Originally Posted by spearfish25 View Post
    I'm sorry but these night and day tire reviews are very sketchy and are usually more buyer self - reassurance than reality. If you put Pilot Sports and Super Sports on a pair of V's, I'd bet the lap times would be within 1-2 seconds of each other on a road course. Heck, even drag radials on a stock V seem to improve a 1/4 mi time by about 0.5s. So, no. Super Sports aren't a world better.

    That being said, they are very likely to be the next tire on my car. I'm just not expecting them to be R comps.

    Tire Rack is a great place and worth a visit to their South Bend headquarters. They hold autocross events on their test track and it's awesome. Like a mini road course.
    I'd love a 1-2 second improvement on a road course from a street tire swap that losts longer

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    Re: If you're not driving on Michelin Pilot SUPER SPORTS you must pick up a set!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tedboss1 View Post
    Has anybody tried the Super Sports in 1/4 mile?

    What would be the improvement in 0 to 60 foot times?
    I was hoping that somebody has tried the two types of tire in 1/4 mile and has quantitative results.

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    I'd bet both my testicles that either the Hankook RS-3s or the new Dunlop Direzza ZIIs would demolish the SSs.

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    Then you would loose your balls, lol . I have some friends that road race corvettes and they say that nothing short of a shaved r compound tire can match the ss, I will be running at the 1/4 mile in a couple weeks I will post the results.
    No spearfish they will not be back to back results but opinions are all we have on these forums and just out of curiosity how many different tires have you tried on your V?

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    Re: If you're not driving on Michelin Pilot SUPER SPORTS you must pick up a set!

    Quote Originally Posted by rgp6373 View Post
    Then you would loose your balls, lol . I have some friends that road race corvettes and they say that nothing short of a shaved r compound tire can match the ss, I will be running at the 1/4 mile in a couple weeks I will post the results.
    No spearfish they will not be back to back results but opinions are all we have on these forums and just out of curiosity how many different tires have you tried on your V?
    Haven't tried any other tires aside from the PS2s on the V. But I've been through RE-11s, Hankook Ventus V12s, and RE050As on my previous car. Some experience from friends using SSs and RS-3s. The hardcore autoX guys I know favor the RS3s and Direzza Star Specs over any other tire on the market. They kind of laugh at the Michelin offerings as they're more geared to all-round wet and dry performance rather than ultimate dry performance. Just look at the tread blocks...RS3 and Direzzas look like F1 Intermediates. They are classified as "Extreme Performance" which is a category above the "Max Performance" of the SSs on the TireRack website. Interpret those categories how you will (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/types/tiretype.jsp)

    I'm really not anti-SSs. I just dislike reading threads where monumental claims are made about a single product and everyone then decides this product is the end-all. Fortunately for us car enthusiasts, we have tons of great options.

    Here is a good read that's probably as objective as we'll get for a comparison of the SSs with some other tires: http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...t/viewall.html

    And one that's pro-SS: http://skiddmark.com/2011/10/track-t...ormance-tyres/

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