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    Average RWHP/RWTQ on stock A6 V

    Just bought a 2011 V A6 coupe and I'm wondering if there is a consolldated list of members Dyno numbers available? If not can folks that have dyno'd their STOCK A6 V's please post their stock numbers.

    As a point of reference my 100% OEM 2007 Z06 dyno'd at 454 RWHP and 439 RWTQ. Guess that equates to about an 11% drive train loss (but it is an M6), my 06 LS2 M6 vette dyno'd in at 349RWHP and 340RWTQ or about a 13% drive train loss on the same dyno. I could go on but I believe the DynoJet dyno I use is constant year in and year out.

    So what can I expect from my A6 11 V?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Re: Average RWHP/RWTQ on stock A6 V

    440-445RWHP for auto stock. 465-470 with CAI for most A6 I've seen.

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    Re: Average RWHP/RWTQ on stock A6 V

    I think Gary Wells has tracked a bunch of stock dyno runs for auto and manual Vs

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    Re: Average RWHP/RWTQ on stock A6 V

    1) Cad bone stock RWHP & RWTQ (A6+M6) (all dynos):

    rwhp---rwtq---trans--corr------dyno-----------date----------loc--------owner

    425-----425-----A6-----sae-----Dynojet------05-05-10-------tx-------wfo
    429-----423-----A6-----sae-----Dynojet------12-10-08-------in-------wait4me
    429-----430-----A6-----unc.----Dynojet------09-26-09-------ca-------garywells
    433-----434-----A6-----???-----Mustang-----02-18-12-------nj-------sstreet king
    436-----432-----A6-----xxx-----Dynojet------12-17-09-------ua-------tagzo
    438-----432-----A6-----xxx-----Dynojet------xx-xx-xxx-------oh-------drbuzz
    439-----435-----A6-----std-----Dynojet------06-14-10-------nv-------zippy--10
    439-----436-----A6-----sae-----Dynojet------10-05-10-------tx-------domsz06
    440-----427-----A6-----xxx-----Dynojet------02-19-10-------ca-------cts-v-twin
    440-----428-----A6-----sae-----Dynojet------07-19-11-------il--------cruiser68
    442-----442-----A6-----sae-----Dynojet------07-20-09-------ca-------katmcrat
    444-----442-----A6-----sae-----Dynojet------03-18-10-------fl--------veelocity
    446-----433-----A6-----sae-----Mustang-----12-31-10-------xx-------dale pittman
    447-----450-----A6-----sae-----Dynojet------04-03-10-------il--------prof
    447-----450-----A6-----sae-----Mustang-----12-31-10-------in-------Bushidopupil
    450-----444-----A6-----sae-----Dynojet------01-24-12-------nc-------wd2009ctsv
    451-----439-----A6-----sae-----Dynojet------02-25-10-------tx-------richeic77
    452-----468-----A6-----sae-----Mustang-----04-22-11-------fl--------miamictsv
    454-----453-----A6-----xxx-----Dynojet------05-03-09-------xx-------mafungu
    455-----445-----M6----std.-----Dynojet------03-08-11-------nv-------fst dad
    456-----451-----A6-----sae-----Dynojet------10-13-10-------ca-------garywells
    457-----459-----A6-----xxx-----Dynojet------10-07-09-------fl--------lowet
    458-----456-----A6-----unc-----Dynojet------03-01-13-------ca-------winspeed
    459-----459-----A6-----sae-----Dynojet------12-07-09-------tx-------nineball
    459-----462-----A6-----xxx-----Dynojet------01-27-10-------az-------mike09v
    460-----454-----A6-----sae-----Dynojet------01-07-10-------tx-------dons
    460-----461-----A6-----sae-----Dynojet------02-18-10-------nc-------heintzrac
    461-----456-----A6-----unc-----Dynojet------11-21-12-------wa------lucas English
    462-----445-----A6-----std.-----Dynojet------05-05-10-------md------tmccl65
    462-----501-----M6----xxx-----Mustang-----05-01-09-------il--------razorecko
    463-----461-----A6-----xxx-----Dynojet------04-16-10-------ne------intrvnton302
    463-----465-----A6-----sae-----Dynojet------12-17-11-------ut-------1fstvee
    465-----447-----A6-----std-----Dynojet------01-26-10-------tx-------richeic77
    466-----463-----A6-----sae-----Dynojet------03-18-10-------nc------heintzrac
    466-----464-----M6----xxx-----Landsea------05-xx-09-------ca-------luna
    466-----476-----A6-----xxx-----Dynomt------06-16-11-------ny------joeycts-v
    470-----465-----M6----sae-----Dynojet.------04-20-10-------ua------venomws7
    471-----458-----M6----sae-----Dynojet.------08-19-11-------ga------muohio
    471-----458-----A6-----???-----Mustang------03-21-12-------tx------v locity
    471-----475-----A6-----sae-----Dynojet------01-07-09-------il-------davegolder
    472-----518-----A6-----sae-----Dynocom----07-31-12-------pa------Purple87ss

    472-----466-----A6-----sae-----Dynocom----12-10-10-------fl-------bookinctsv
    473-----447-----A6-----sae-----Dynojet------04-30-11-------fl--------vapordoc
    474-----466-----A6-----sae-----Dynojet------01-27-11-------tx-------Domsz06
    474-----473-----M6----sae-----Dynojet------10-26-10-------ca-------e6t
    474-----481-----A6-----sae-----Dynojet------02-22-10-------tx-------jcampbell
    478-----462-----A6-----sae-----Dynojet------03-05-11-------fl--------bowtye8
    481-----466-----A6-----sae-----Dynojet.-----12-27-11-------ny-------ultimateendz
    481-----483-----M6----sae-----Mustang-----05-14-11-------oh-------cub cadet
    485-----453-----M6----xxx-----Dynojet------07-10-09-------tx.-------stealthjr
    485-----479-----M6----sae-----Dynojet------06-08-12-------tx.-------peso611 ’12 wgn
    488-----470-----A6-----sae-----Dynojet------04-25-10-------il--------newcadman
    491-----496-----M6----xxx-----Dynapk.------04-20-10-------md-----tbjs
    491-----497-----M6----sae-----Dynojet------07-21-11-------in-------elliotmsiegel
    493-----511-----M6----sae-----Dynapk------04-28-10-------ca-------fleadh
    492-----500-----M6----xxx-----Mustang-----07-24-12-------??------wtfisactsv
    493-----519-----A6-----sae-----Dynapk------01-29-09-------ca-------d3(craig)
    494-----483-----M6----sae-----Dynojet------01-16-09-------tx-------silver-v-
    495-----486-----M6----sae-----Dynojet------05-13-11-------ar-------caddy wagon
    496----485.----M6---sae----Dynojet-----12-09-11------tx------keithsm2
    497-----513-----A6.----sae-----Dynapk------10-16-09-------ca-------garywells
    500-----481-----M6----xxx-----Dynojet------03-06-10-------al-------roarkb
    502-----489-----M6----sae-----Dynojet------06-17-11-------oh------utopia
    502-----490-----M6----xxx-----Dynojet------12-25-09-------tx-------trevord
    507-----525-----M6----xxx-----Dynomt------09-26-09-------in-------backup
    508-----496-----M6----sae-----Dynojet------05-19-11-------in-------jrcmlc
    510-----531-----A6.----sae-----Dynapk------10-11-10-------ca.------garywells
    525-----519-----M6----xxx-----Dynomt.-----10-22-10-------ny------aj660
    528-----514-----M6----sae-----Landsea-----02-13-11-------ny------joeszo6


    bone stock RWHP & RWTQ (auto (44) + manual (23) ) (all dyno types):
    RWHP Average (67 samples): XXXXX/67= XXX.XX average
    RWTQ Average (67 samples): XXXXX/67= XXX.XX average

    RWHP: 67 RWHP readings--------------------------RWTQ: 67 RWTQ readings

    48 Dynojet readings.--------------------------------48 Dynojet readings
    05 Dynapack readings------------------------------05 Dynapack readings
    08 Mustang readings.-------------------------------08 Mustang readings
    02 Dynomite readings------------------------------02 Dynomite readings
    02 Land&Sea reading-------------------------------02 Land&Sea readings
    02 Dynacom reading--------------------------------02 Dynacom reading

    Updated & verified: 08-01-2012 less tallying RWHP & RWTQ figures





    Below are several examples showing how different correction factors affect the same dyno run readings. The 1st (jrcmlc) shows 3 different correction factors & the 2nd (ultimateendz) shows 3 different correction factors. The 3rd (caddy wagon) shows 2 different correction factors.
    Only the SAE correction factor figures are listed above for these cars.

    506-----491-----M6----unc----Dynojet------05-19-11-------in-------jrcmlc
    508-----496-----M6----sae.----Dynojet------05-19-11-------in-------jrcmlc
    519-----507-----M6----std-----Dynojet------05-19-11-------in-------jrcmlc

    477-----466-----A6----sae-----Dynojet------12-27-11-------ny-------ultimateendz
    492-----480-----A6----std-----Dynojet------12-27-11-------ny-------ultimateendz
    501-----485-----A6----unc.----Dynojet------12-27-11-------ny-------ultimateendz

    495-----486-----M6----sae-----Dynojet------05-13-11-------ar-------caddy wagon
    505-----496-----M6----std-----Dynojet------05-13-11-------ar-------caddy wagon

    I show 4 different V2’s dynoed on Mustang dynoes, 2 autos & 2 manuals.
    447-----450-----A6-----sae-----Mustang-----12-31-10-------in-------Bushidopupil
    452-----468-----A6-----sae-----Mustang-----04-22-11-------fl--------miamictsv

    The 2 autos averaged = 449.5 RWHP & 459 RWTQ on Mustang dynoes, while the average for 28 different autos on a Dynojet were 454 RWHP & 449 RWTQ.
    4.5 RWHP less on a Mustang dyno compared to a Dynojet dyno.
    10 RWTQ more on a Mustang dyno compared to a Dynojet dyno.

    462-----501-----M6----xxx-----Mustang-----05-01-09-------il--------razorecko
    481-----483-----M6----sae-----Mustang-----05-14-11-------oh------cub cadet

    The 2 manuals averaged = 472 RWHP & 492 RWTQ on Mustang dynoes, while the average for 9 different manuals on a Dynojet were 487 RWHP & 475 RWTQ.
    15 RWHP less on a Mustang dyno compared to a Dynojet dyno.
    17 RWTQ more on a Mustang dyno compared to a Dynojet dyno.
    Mustang dynos seem to dyno less RWHP with both A6 (auto) & M6 (manual) transmissions compared to what they dyno on a Dynojet.

    Mustang dynos seem to dyno more RWTQ with both A6 (auto) & M6 (manual) transmissions compared to what they dyno on a Dynojet.

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    8) Cad bone stock ’09 & up RWHP & RWTQ averages:

    1) Cad bone stock RWHP & RWTQ (A6 (40) + M6 (21)) (all dynos): 01-24-12
    RWHP average (61 samples): 28675/61= 469.26 average
    RWTQ average (61 samples): 28426/61= 466.00 average

    2) Cad bone stock RWHP & RWTQ (A6 (33) + M6 (13)) (dynojet only): 01-26-12
    RWHP average (46 samples): 21355/46= 464.24 average
    RWTQ average (46 samples): 21033/46= 457.24 average

    3) Cad bone stock RAHP & RATQ (A6 (3) & M6 (2)) (Dynapack only): 01-02-12
    RAHP average (5 samples): 2484/5= 496.80 average
    RATQ average (5 samples): 2570/5= 514.00 average

    4) Cad bone stock RWHP & RWTQ (A6 only (33)) (dynojet only): 01-26-2012
    RWHP average (33 samples): 15012/33 = 454.91 average
    RWTQ average (33 samples): 14832/33= 449.46 average

    5) Cad bone stock RWHP & RWTQ (M6 only (13)) (dynojet only): 01-14-2012
    RWHP average (13 samples) = 6343/13= 487.92 average
    RWTQ average (13 samples) = 6201/13= 477.00 average

    6) Cad bone stock RWHP & RWTQ (A6 only (40)) (all dynos): 01-26-2012
    RWHP average (40 samples): 18329/40= 458.23 average
    RWTQ average (40 samples): 18251/40= 456.28 average

    7) Cad bone stock RWHP & RWTQ (M6 only (21)) (all dynos): 01-02-2012
    RWHP average (21 samples): 10296/21= 490.28 average
    RWTQ average (21 samples): 10214/21= 486.38 average
    Updated & verified: 01-26-2012


    ----------------------------------------Averages-------------------------------------

    ------Dyno type.---------------------RWHP------------------RWTQ--------------

    45 Dynojet readings: 01-14-2012
    32 automatic (A6).----------------455.06------------------449.63--------------
    13 manual (M6)-------------------487.92------------------477.00--------------

    05 Dynapack readings: 01-14-2012
    03 automatic (A6)-----------------500.00------------------521.00--------------
    02 manual (M6).-------------------492.00------------------503.50--------------

    05 Mustang readings: 01-14-2012
    03 automatic (A6)-----------------448.33------------------450.33--------------
    02 manual (M6).-------------------471.50------------------492.00--------------

    02 Dynomite readings: 01-14-2012
    02 manual (M6).-------------------516.00-------------------522.00--------------

    02 Land&Sea readings: 01-14-2012
    02 manual (M6).-------------------497.00-------------------489.00--------------

    01 Dynacom reading: 01-14-2012
    01 automatic (A6)----------------472.00.-------------------466.00--------------

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    If you have dynoed yours, bone stock, regardless ow what type / brand of dyno, I would like to have that data to add to my charts.

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    Re: Average RWHP/RWTQ on stock A6 V

    I plan on attending our local Corvette Club's Dyno Day to be held either in late April or May. Once I get my numbers I pass them on.

    Thanks for all the info.

    Tom

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    Re: Average RWHP/RWTQ on stock A6 V

    Quote Originally Posted by USAFRET View Post
    Just bought a 2011 V A6 coupe and I'm wondering if there is a consolldated list of members Dyno numbers available? If not can folks that have dyno'd their STOCK A6 V's please post their stock numbers.

    As a point of reference my 100% OEM 2007 Z06 dyno'd at 454 RWHP and 439 RWTQ. Guess that equates to about an 11% drive train loss (but it is an M6), my 06 LS2 M6 vette dyno'd in at 349RWHP and 340RWTQ or about a 13% drive train loss on the same dyno. I could go on but I believe the DynoJet dyno I use is constant year in and year out.

    So what can I expect from my A6 11 V?

    Thanks in advance.
    Not enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFRET View Post
    Just bought a 2011 V A6 coupe and I'm wondering if there is a consolldated list of members Dyno numbers available? If not can folks that have dyno'd their STOCK A6 V's please post their stock numbers.

    As a point of reference my 100% OEM 2007 Z06 dyno'd at 454 RWHP and 439 RWTQ. Guess that equates to about an 11% drive train loss (but it is an M6), my 06 LS2 M6 vette dyno'd in at 349RWHP and 340RWTQ or about a 13% drive train loss on the same dyno. I could go on but I believe the DynoJet dyno I use is constant year in and year out.

    So what can I expect from my A6 11 V?

    Thanks in advance.
    Not enough?

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    Re: Average RWHP/RWTQ on stock A6 V

    Quote Originally Posted by Guard dog View Post
    Not enough?

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    Not enough?
    Or to quote Big Daddy Don Garlits - If some is GOOD, and more is BETTER than too much is just RIGHT.

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