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2009-2014 Cadillac CTS-V Performance Mods Discussion, Opportunity for possible free labor, recommendations on how to use it? in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2009-2014; My dealer has offered to replace my SC at no charge due to rattle at idle and at low throttle. ...
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    Opportunity for possible free labor, recommendations on how to use it?

    My dealer has offered to replace my SC at no charge due to rattle at idle and at low throttle.

    while I haven't yet discussed it with them, I suspect they would be willing to install some aftermarket parts in there as part of the replacement (if they're part of the SC replacement process). I can't do the 2.3 as the new SC will be a warrantly replacement, unless I want to eat the cost of the SC.

    Assuming they're willing to go ahead, what parts would you guys recommend reaplcing/adding? The D3 spacer is the first thing that comes to mind, however I'm a bit skeptical of it. It seems a little like one of those Airaid throttle body spaces (gimmick). Admittedly, I don't specialize in fluid dynamics, but it seems - suspect.

    I'm also thinking of doing either the 630 or 650 Lingenfelter kit, possibly at the same time. The 650 kit is twice as much money for only 20hp more. It seems that it's really only worth doing the 650 if you plan to do more than past that. Is it worth doing the 650 kit if i do exhaust as well, or am I just throwing away money if I'm not doing significantly more than that?

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    Re: Opportunity for possible free labor, recommendations on how to use it?

    I really doubt that they'll add non-GM parts since they'll have to warranty them then.

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    Re: Opportunity for possible free labor, recommendations on how to use it?

    Quote Originally Posted by baabootoo View Post
    I really doubt that they'll add non-GM parts since they'll have to warranty them then.
    You're certainly entitled to your opinion. I really would like to keep the thread on part suggestions. If you have any suggestions for parts that can be switched out during the replacement on the blower, please let me know.

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    Re: Opportunity for possible free labor, recommendations on how to use it?

    No way a GM dealer will put non factory parts on, AND keep the warranty. If they do, don't post their name in here....cause they would be in a wee bit of trouble.

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    Re: Opportunity for possible free labor, recommendations on how to use it?

    I agree, a doubt the dealer would go for it as he would get in trouble.

    however to answer your question, Probably just go with the 650 kit if they will do it.

    If I was in control of the parts, I would be doing:
    2.55 upper
    cold air kit,
    tuning
    heat exchanger.

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    Re: Opportunity for possible free labor, recommendations on how to use it?

    So how bad is the stock V heat exchanger? Is still possible to have a 2.55 and not do the heat exchanger?

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    Re: Opportunity for possible free labor, recommendations on how to use it?

    I'm thinking of doing the exact same mods and will not track or race the car. I can't figure why I need a heat exchanger or plugs.

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    Re: Opportunity for possible free labor, recommendations on how to use it?

    The heat exchanger is just to maintain your horsepower for longer. The more reserve fluid you have in the system the better to cool things off and maintain that temperature before it starts to climb, and then you start to loose power.

    Stock one does good but the volume of fluid just isn't there, so there isn't much reserve. The larger exchangers just hold more volume allowing the rising and falling of temperatures to be slower and more stable.

    IF you floor your car and go thru 5 gears and watch your iat2 temps, with a stock one they climb and keep climbing. With an aftermarket one, they climb a bit at first, then maintain or lower the temps.

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    Re: Opportunity for possible free labor, recommendations on how to use it?

    Quote Originally Posted by wait4me View Post
    I agree, a doubt the dealer would go for it as he would get in trouble.

    however to answer your question, Probably just go with the 650 kit if they will do it.

    If I was in control of the parts, I would be doing:
    2.55 upper
    cold air kit,
    tuning
    heat exchanger.
    I'm certainly not expectig that they're not going to do the entire 650 kit for free, but they might give me a discount if I do them at the same time as the warranty work. I've talked to the service manager about installing aftermarket parts and he's aftermarket friendly. I'm thinking of doing the 630 kit for now as I'm not sure (after reading your comments) that the injectors would provide any benefit to me at all until I at least upgrade the exhaust. I'd love to have you do the car if you weren't so far away.

    To the earlier comment, of course I'm not expecting them to warranty aftermarket parts... Does that really even need to be said?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wait4me View Post
    I agree, a doubt the dealer would go for it as he would get in trouble.

    however to answer your question, Probably just go with the 650 kit if they will do it.

    If I was in control of the parts, I would be doing:
    2.55 upper
    cold air kit,
    tuning
    heat exchanger.
    I tried PM'ing you, but your box is full

    Could you put together a quote for the above and what I'd need to do regarding tuning?

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    So aside from them installing everything are they going to tune it also????

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    Re: Opportunity for possible free labor, recommendations on how to use it?

    Some dealers are ok with aftermarket parts such as an intake or exhaust. Did you ask them about changing pulleys?

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    Re: Opportunity for possible free labor, recommendations on how to use it?

    Quote Originally Posted by daowens View Post
    Some dealers are ok with aftermarket parts such as an intake or exhaust. Did you ask them about changing pulleys?
    Multiple times. Even if I don't get the work done now, I'll likely have the dealer do most of it. They've taken great care of my and I have a great relationship with them.

    They're not setup for a tune. Most likely I'll get a second ECU to have tuned and keep the original ECU stock, just in case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jb7952

    Most likely I'll get a second ECU to have tuned and keep the original ECU stock, just in case.
    Haha. Good luck with that......soon as you swap, they'll know as soon as you go in for service

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    Re: Opportunity for possible free labor, recommendations on how to use it?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkKnight View Post
    Haha. Good luck with that......soon as you swap, they'll know as soon as you go in for service
    This is correct to an extent, The Drivers side door module does record such events.

    The only way to date that I know of to make things hidden is the way I am doing it. Still 4 years later and no one has had the warranty void from my tunes I made.

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    Re: Opportunity for possible free labor, recommendations on how to use it?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkKnight View Post
    Haha. Good luck with that......soon as you swap, they'll know as soon as you go in for service
    Haha... I'm not trying to fool anyone. I don't need to.

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