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    Re: CTS-V - track prep questions / track wheels, R-Compound tires & AIM data acquist

    How are they on the rotors? I can't find those numbers anywhere including Bimmer World store or PF's site. Any other places like Amazon, Tire Rack, etc?

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    You'll need to email or call BimmerWorld to order them (not an off the shelf pad number for PFC).

    Here are descriptions of the different compounds: http://store.bimmerworld.com/perform...nts-p1061.aspx

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    Re: CTS-V - track prep questions / track wheels, R-Compound tires & AIM data acquist

    Just took delivery. I posted pics and details over on this thread...

    http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...ml#post3161053

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    Re: CTS-V - track prep questions / track wheels, R-Compound tires & AIM data acquist

    I run the TSW's on my Sedan. 19x19 front and 19x10 rear with a square set up tirewise (295). I do need spacers in the rear but not the front. I'm running toyo-r888's but am likely to drop down to 18's so I can run R6's in the coming year. Last I checked, I couldn't get the r6 in an appropriate size for my 19's.

    As for brakes, I LOVE the Porterfields but I don't drive much on the street and it's never that cold here in LA. They do need to warm up before they are ready to really do their job. On the track though, they are simply fantastic.

    I'd look into a diff cooler. There are a few options out there. D3 makes mine but there is a recent thread with a potential group buy on an affordable alternative that might be as good, I just don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rule12b
    I run the TSW's on my Sedan. 19x19 front and 19x10 rear with a square set up tirewise (295). I do need spacers in the rear but not the front. I'm running toyo-r888's but am likely to drop down to 18's so I can run R6's in the coming year. Last I checked, I couldn't get the r6 in an appropriate size for my 19's.

    As for brakes, I LOVE the Porterfields but I don't drive much on the street and it's never that cold here in LA. They do need to warm up before they are ready to really do their job. On the track though, they are simply fantastic.

    I'd look into a diff cooler. There are a few options out there. D3 makes mine but there is a recent thread with a potential group buy on an affordable alternative that might be as good, I just don't know.
    You should try PFC pads. I ran R4's years and years ago for autocrossing. They're an old compound and good beginner pad, but not up for advanced track or race duty. It's night and day difference. Yes, they're pricey, but worth it IMHO.

    Yes, a diff cooler is on my to do list. I ran a Genesis pump from HRP on my race car, so I may look into that option and not reinvent the wheel.
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    Re: CTS-V - track prep questions / track wheels, R-Compound tires & AIM data acquist

    How are the PFC's on rotors? My car seldom sees the streets, and will see them even less in the coming year so I'm really only concerned about the impact on rotors as opposed to cold stopping.

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    Re: CTS-V - track prep questions / track wheels, R-Compound tires & AIM data acquist

    Quote Originally Posted by Rule12b View Post
    How are the PFC's on rotors? My car seldom sees the streets, and will see them even less in the coming year so I'm really only concerned about the impact on rotors as opposed to cold stopping.
    My latest experience with PFC pads were on my GTS-3 BMW M3 race car.

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    I used PFC01 pads on a PFC ZR45 4-piston big brake kit. Stopping power was phenomenal... initial bite was like you threw an anchor out the window and you could modulate the pedal (it wasn't a simple on/off switch).

    I was using PFC Direct Drive rotors as part of the BBK kit and wear was fine. Granted, this car didn't see any street time and was race only, so I wasn't too worried about expendables like brake pads and rotors.

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    Re: CTS-V - track prep questions / track wheels, R-Compound tires & AIM data acquist

    Quote Originally Posted by DBCTSV View Post
    My latest experience with PFC pads were on my GTS-3 BMW M3 race car.

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    I used PFC01 pads on a PFC ZR45 4-piston big brake kit. Stopping power was phenomenal... initial bite was like you threw an anchor out the window and you could modulate the pedal (it wasn't a simple on/off switch).

    I was using PFC Direct Drive rotors as part of the BBK kit and wear was fine. Granted, this car didn't see any street time and was race only, so I wasn't too worried about expendables like brake pads and rotors.
    That is definitely something I'd look into if I upgrade the stock brakes to be sure. I'll keep the pads in mind though for sure. I don't even know if they are available for the V.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rule12b

    That is definitely something I'd look into if I upgrade the stock brakes to be sure. I'll keep the pads in mind though for sure. I don't even know if they are available for the V.
    They're available - the part numbers are:

    9196.08.17.44 (front)
    0592.08.15.44 (rear)

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    Re: CTS-V - track prep questions / track wheels, R-Compound tires & AIM data acquist

    Quote Originally Posted by DBCTSV View Post
    They're available - the part numbers are:

    9196.08.17.44 (front)
    0592.08.15.44 (rear)
    Nice! Thanks!

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    Re: CTS-V - track prep questions / track wheels, R-Compound tires & AIM data acquist

    As for data acquisition, I have used this on a motorcycle with excellent performance. Just mount on the front/rear dash and go.
    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cms-...434692438?mt=8

    So you guys are going to 18's for better rubber selection... go bit of info. thanks.

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    Re: CTS-V - track prep questions / track wheels, R-Compound tires & AIM data acquist

    18s, no doubt. Quality wheels are available, tires are MUCH cheaper(and many lightly used sets are available) and plentiful and having more sidewall is better for feel and communication, IMO...
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigjimsho
    18s, no doubt. Quality wheels are available, tires are MUCH cheaper(and many lightly used sets are available) and plentiful and having more sidewall is better for feel and communication, IMO...
    Yes, 18's are definitely the way to go for track duty. Grand Am take offs are plentiful, cheap and more than enough rubber for the occasional track day or time trial.

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    Re: CTS-V - track prep questions / track wheels, R-Compound tires & AIM data acquist

    I ran PF pads on my Corvette. 01's up front, and 97's in the rear. This was my perferred setup after years of playing with other brands, (ie: carbotech & hawk). Hawks were too destructive with nasty dust, and carbotech is just inconsistant from one batch to the next. And now the corvette guys are bending backing plates with carbotechs.

    I never tried any other compound of PF's. I know they have much newer compounds now.

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    Re: CTS-V - track prep questions / track wheels, R-Compound tires & AIM data acquist

    Quote Originally Posted by DBCTSV View Post
    ...the PFC's provide an amazing initial bite, are linear and easy to modulate. I believe there was an article in Grassroots Motorsports a few months ago that did a test. Anyway, I'm sure the Hawks, etc. work great for others, but I'll stick with PFC for track duty on any car.
    I ran PFC-01's for track days on another two-ton beast (E39 M5) and absolutely loved them. The added weight and higher HP (lots at that time) brought them up to operating temp quickly. I understand your affinity for them. Haven't tracked the V as yet, so I can't speak to that application.

    All this track talk has me itchin' for some seat time!! Good luck with your project. Keep us posted.

    BTW, are the E36 M3 and E39 M5 bolt patterns the same? I've still got a set of M5 track wheels in storage, so if they'd work with spacers...

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