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2009-2014 Cadillac CTS-V Performance Mods Discussion, Installed 2800 Torque convrter and headers yesterday... in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2009-2014; Friends, As some of you know I was flim-flamming on installing some go fast parts on my brand new daily ...
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    Installed 2800 Torque convrter and headers yesterday...

    Friends,

    As some of you know I was flim-flamming on installing some go fast parts on my brand new daily driven CTS-V. I had some of the parts for sale because I had decided not to ruin what I've grown to consider "the perfect car"/ the nicest 'quick' daily-drivable car I've ever owned (comparable to a pristine '87 GN)....

    Well, I talked to lots of folks about installing a 2800 (lock up) stalll converter before I did it because I just really didn't know if it was the right thing to do with such a magnificent car. I was really torn as I've only put big stalls in my racecars in the past (and these cars were no fun on the street). On Friday I had an "ah ha" moment... 2800 isn't exactly a big stall and if I didn't like it I'd just pull it out and go back to stock. Now that I've installed it and put 50 miles on her, all I can say is...WTF was I thinking waiting this long (I was being "prudent," damnit)???? What a difference the lighter (lesser diameter, too) converter made... That coupled with the 2800 RPM variation, what a perfect package for our car. The car picked up at least a half second with the converter alone (in the 1/4) and I'd dare say that the drivability is only slightly different - and not necessarily negative at all.

    I was also really concerned about putting the headers on the car without cats (but with stock muffs). Once again, I said what the heck and just did it. Also glad I went ahead and did this, too... Idle is no more than 1 db louder in the car. Cruising is maybe 1.5 db louder in the car at 1800 RPM (and I haven't yet found a drone point). Now, WOT - well.. That's a different story. The car screams like a raped ape (sound wise). Every cop in a 1 mile radius will now know when I stab the throttle... (Hey, I'm ok with this part! I want to hear when I really gag on it!)

    The tuning for the converter was pretty easy. I suppose that's because the 2800 lockup converter just isn't that much more aggressive than stock. Not too many things had to be altered really.

    While she was in the air I put the Eibach's on her and cut the front bump stops (but not the rear). I'm hopeful I don't start hearing the dreaded squeak I've heard so many other complain about.......... I really like the slightly lower look! Car handles like it did from the factory until you hit the turns... It's a real dream in the turns now. Much much more firm. I think I may add sway bars as well but that should do it for the suspension...

    I've decided to go ahead and put the 9" lower on, get some 90 lbs/hr injectors, GT9 camshaft and probably go E85 (I've done this combo on a few of my friends V's and they clear 690 RWHP every time with a torque curve that's as flat as a godamn pancake from 2700 RPM for 6500 RPM... So I know exactly what I'm getting into here... ) I guess I just had to make a decision as to whether or not I was going to say screw the warranty.... I guess I've already made that decision. Sigh...

    Just thought I'd share this with my compadres here.

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    Re: Installed 2800 Torque convrter and headers yesterday...

    Nice set up. Clean your inbox please i have couple of questions. Thank you

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    Re: Installed 2800 Torque convrter and headers yesterday...

    Just cleared the inbox and sent a hello to you! Sorry about that!

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    Re: Installed 2800 Torque convrter and headers yesterday...

    Whose make of lock up converter did you go with?

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    Re: Installed 2800 Torque convrter and headers yesterday...

    It is a yank 2800 lock up single disc.

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    Re: Installed 2800 Torque convrter and headers yesterday...

    I've been fighting with the same dilemma, Ed, regarding the factory warranty & such. Glad to hear that you are happy with the way that the car turned out.

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    Re: Installed 2800 Torque convrter and headers yesterday...

    Gary,

    Thank you.

    My only advice to you is... DO IT. (said in the funny way, but meant totally seriously)

    I just wish I had done the TC sooner! What a difference....

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    Re: Installed 2800 Torque convrter and headers yesterday...

    Ed:
    No before and after dyno? I'm curious what the headers picked up without cats. I've got a brand new titanium coated set of Kook's headers with the hi-po cats and am considering running those all the way back to the factory muffs.

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    Re: Installed 2800 Torque convrter and headers yesterday...

    Gary,

    I did not put the car on the rollers after the headers and the converter. I did a highway tune... I can tell you that it lost a little on the peak number (because of the torque converter) but it certainly flattened out the torque curve!!!!!

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    Re: Installed 2800 Torque convrter and headers yesterday...

    Ed- We have to meet up at PBIR!!
    See my post with Litagor racing. Our 60ft times were horrible. I know some better air/DA will help.
    I had a 3600 Yank in my former 01 Vette. Super convertor. Drivabilty was non-issue. Lit is working on some nice mods. I may follow his footsteps. I would like to hit 600+ hp as well.
    Who did your install for the convertor? Local caddy dealer or hipo shop.

    Thanks
    Dennis

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    Re: Installed 2800 Torque convrter and headers yesterday...

    Dennis, I'd love to meet up!! I'll czech out that thread right away, bud!


    I would imagine with a properly (this can be hard to find) prepped track and the MT 19" DR, I can see this thing going 1.6x all day... I wouldn't imagine a 1.5x is too far fetched...

    I usually do all of my own work, but I had a little help from a friend (was in a hurry) throwing the headers and the converter on the car at a buddy's shop. (I don't have a garage down here in Florida (I'm not from here but I do live here now. I have a full garage back home) so my friend that owns the hipo shop some times let's me use one of his lifts when he's not too busy).

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    Re: Installed 2800 Torque convrter and headers yesterday...

    I did pull a couple 1.6X at PBIR a few weeks ago in much more favorable conditions.

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