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    Stick or Auto

    Guy's I'm looking at ordering a new V but just not sure on the transmission? Should I go with Stick or the auto? I've read the auto is real good but just not sure how good it would be on the track down shifting when your coming to a turn? What do you guys think?

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    Re: Stick or Auto

    Uh-h... maybe you should watch the video of Heinricy turning a 7:59 at Nurburgring with an auto.

    I was talking with Andy Pilgrim on Fri morn at the CTS-V Driving Lab at Monticello, he firmly believes the auto is the way to go.

    And both of those guys have a reasonable amount of time piloting the '09 CTS-V with an auto trans on the track. JMO

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    Re: Stick or Auto

    Stick. How else am I gonna get to 200mph on the way to work?

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    Re: Stick or Auto

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    Stick. How else am I gonna get to 200mph on the way to work?
    Hey, that`s good CVP but the manual is top speed rated 193 mph and auto is 175 mph.

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    Re: Stick or Auto

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    Guy's I'm looking at ordering a new V but just not sure on the transmission? Should I go with Stick or the auto? I've read the auto is real good but just not sure how good it would be on the track down shifting when your coming to a turn? What do you guys think?
    If you are a heel and toe master, get the manual. If you're not, get the auto! It rev matches for you. You still need to downshift at the right time and have the car properly settled so it won't drive the car for you like the robotic GT-R. But it shifts wonderfully...

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    Re: Stick or Auto

    Yeah I was thinking the stick also....193 just sounds good!!! I just don't think I could buy a HOT ROD like this with the automatic.. Hey do you guy's now what the no lift shift is all about?

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    Re: Stick or Auto

    Quote Originally Posted by Somefun View Post
    I just don't think I could buy a HOT ROD like this with the automatic...
    Like Burger King, you can have it your way. But I don't see people bitching to Ferrari about having 2 pedals and paddles.

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    Re: Stick or Auto

    Quote Originally Posted by Somefun View Post
    Yeah I was thinking the stick also....193 just sounds good!!! I just don't think I could buy a HOT ROD like this with the automatic.. Hey do you guy's now what the no lift shift is all about?
    While your foot is pressed on the accelerator, press the clutch in and the electronic engine controls hold the RPM for a second (instead of winding up wildly) while you shift so there is no loss in the transition. Even with this super cool feature the automatic is still as fast or faster. I do miss my 5-speed manual in my 03 CTS, but for a daily driver, it got old real fast, but i do need a weekend manual car, it just won't be my daily driver.

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    Re: Stick or Auto

    Quote Originally Posted by harrysstsv View Post
    Hey, that`s good CVP but the manual is top speed rated 193 mph and auto is 175 mph.
    Thought it was 191. Manual feels great. After tracking with the rubber shifter in my 05, the 09 is unreal. I think I'll be faster with the manual. If not, I have work to do. I can't imagine the auto being faster with no lift shifts done properly. Besides, It just felt so right at home on the track. I never drove the auto but will test one(mabey).

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    Re: Stick or Auto

    Quote Originally Posted by V-Love View Post
    Thought it was 191. Manual feels great. After tracking with the rubber shifter in my 05, the 09 is unreal. I think I'll be faster with the manual. If not, I have work to do. I can't imagine the auto being faster with no lift shifts done properly. Besides, It just felt so right at home on the track. I never drove the auto but will test one(mabey).
    How's your heel and toe? If you master that and drive the manual enough, you could be faster(maybe).

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    Re: Stick or Auto

    I am having a hard time deciding between the two. The automatic will probably have a better resale value. The automatic is also faster at slower speed due to more aggressive gearing.

    I will probably get myself a BMW 135 convertible in addition, if it turns out that I miss the stick shift too much.

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    Re: Stick or Auto

    Auto for sure. Ask anyone who has driven the car, they all (including Heinricy) champion the auto.

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    Re: Stick or Auto

    Another factor for me is the lack of handbrake. Call me old school but I think the lack of a proper handbrake compromises the safety, especially in the case of uphill start. Unless GM has borrowed the up hill assist feature form Subaru where the brake is automatically applied for you.

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    Re: Stick or Auto

    Uphill starts are easy in an auto though. Only two pedals to push at once instead of three. You don't need a handbrake to act as a brake pedal.

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    Re: Stick or Auto

    Quote Originally Posted by asabase View Post
    Uphill starts are easy in an auto though. Only two pedals to push at once instead of three. You don't need a handbrake to act as a brake pedal.
    Exactly. I am almost certain that I am going with the automatic. Most likely automatic without sunroof, just like the one ran the ring in under 8 minutes.

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