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    Re: Here's how this works-tell me if 09 V any different

    Remember to factor in the BMW elitist mentality. Pushrods are evil.
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    Re: Here's how this works-tell me if 09 V any different

    Ah. Well... That's a real problem. Whereas before all they had to do was avoid looking in the rearview mirror, now the pushrods will now be some distance ahead of them clearly viewable through the front windshield.
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    Re: Here's how this works-tell me if 09 V any different

    You have to hand it to BMW. They have made their cars the standard against which all others are measured. I'm sure this must cause Mercedes no end of grief! Regarding engines/ push rods etc. Those of us on these type of automotive forums no matter the car, are car guys and girls. We know cars better than about 99% of the general and high performance public. Most who buy a BMW have NO IDEA what kind of engine it has: straight 6, V6, V8 etc. Forget about overhead cams and other technical stuff. They by a BMW or Cadillac or what ever because they like the feeling of driving a status symbol.
    Why else would they pay all that money when they could save thousands and buy an econo box to get from A to B?
    Ultimately, if the "normal" BMW driver determines a Cadillac is the status symbol they want, then they will test drive one or else they will stay with BMW. Of course all this can be affected by lousy dealerships which drive customers to something else.
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    Re: Here's how this works-tell me if 09 V any different

    dohc < *
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    Re: Here's how this works-tell me if 09 V any different

    Instead of the new V, M5 owners will just jump to the next new BMW technowidget-infested beastly ubersedan.

    http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/07/2...roduce-550-hp/

    Anyone seen the throttle on my car? It seems to have gone missing.
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    Re: Here's how this works-tell me if 09 V any different

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    thems fightin words...

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    Re: Here's how this works-tell me if 09 V any different

    I pay what it costs for what I want.
    After that I don't worry about it, I don't judge my personal happiness by what other people think.
    If it makes me happy I enjoy it, if it doesn't make me happy, I sell it and move on.

    If you really want to quit paying MSRP for the first car out, quit your job... after a while I bet you'll find you are much less interested in buying the latest/fastest/best whatever

    My wife and I have bought one new car each.
    She ordered her truck from the factory and just paid cash for whatever the amount was. Since it was a fairly plain pickup truck it wasn't a lot.
    I ordered my Trailblazer through my fleet manager, he tricked me!
    I told him I was thinking about buying one because I needed a family car, he asked me "if you got one what would you want on it?", he ordered one exactly the way I wanted it, color and all. I did the PDI on it, road tested it and bought it. I got it for employee pricing and financed it for 6 years ('cause I am poor ) I paid it off 2 weeks ago and now it has started breaking (go figure)
    It isn't the first, it isn't the best, or the fastest, but it does what I want it to do and I like it.
    I think it is cool that a lot of you guys have the means to buy the new stuff, it keeps me employed
    I'd probably do the same if I could.
    I am glad GM is being so slow about releasing the Camaro because I want one kind of, badly.
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    Re: Here's how this works-tell me if 09 V any different

    Quote Originally Posted by ewill3rd View Post
    I think it is cool that a lot of you guys have the means to buy the new stuff, it keeps me employed
    I'd probably do the same if I could.
    I am glad GM is being so slow about releasing the Camaro because I want one kind of, badly.
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    Re: Here's how this works-tell me if 09 V any different

    Completely off topic:

    This car looks great even sitting in a parking lot.
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    Re: Here's how this works-tell me if 09 V any different

    Quote Originally Posted by Jpjr View Post
    When I lived in Detroit I thought that. Now that I live in California I don't.

    "Caddy vs BMW" is sort of like "Nascar vs Formula 1" or "Muscle vs Finesse", etc. etc.

    Most BMW drivers I know would never consider a Cadillac regardless of the numbers because throwing a "truck" engine in a big car is not the way elitists care to compete.

    The aspects of the V2 that are truly world-class / state of the art appear to be the suspension and perhaps the new interior. The rest (big displacement / low efficiency, slushbox, pig, etc.) are still behind the times even if the numbers compete or exceed.

    (I am presenting the counter-argument here. I am buying the V2
    My problem with this argument is that even though it might be derived from a truck engine, it is still an engine, even with the new FI hardware that still comes in at nearly the same weight as the BMW V10.

    The LS7 in the Z06 is actually A LOT lighter than the BMW engine, while making the same power, oodles more torque, costing less, burning less fuel and taking up less room in the engine compartment. This engine is a beefed up FI version of that engine.

    Not sure where the finesse is when everying thing on the BMW V10 is bigger and more thirsty, other than the displacement per stroke. On top of all that, they are going FI in the next gen also so can't even brag about NA anymore.

    Also, it's very tough for the AMG guys to claim this is any less of a muscular approach than the AMG one.
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    Re: Here's how this works-tell me if 09 V any different

    What have I missed? The CTS-V, LSA V8 is derived from the LS9 in the Corvette ZR1. The LS9, my LS7 in a 2003 Vette and all other Vette engines since 1997 are based on the LS1 introduced in the 1997 Vette. As Corvette has said, it was created from "A Clean Sheet of Paper".
    Where's the truck?
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    Re: Here's how this works-tell me if 09 V any different

    There is nothing wrong will LS engines. They make the Hp and Tq user friendly. They make it light and leading fuel economy for its power is fantastic. I've been fortunate to have owned or have driven everything thats out there. I still LOVE my stock LS-6. Plain and simple there are works of art out there engine wise and by no means is the LSA the best and end all. But I can't f%%^$ wait. This car is going to kick ass. This one is going to take me down modd hell. Already picking out the rims ohhh boy
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