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2009-2014 Cadillac CTS-V Performance Mods Discussion, Nurburgring 7:59.32 in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2009-2014; Originally Posted by The Tony Show SHUT UP ABOUT THE GT-R. It's a coupe. It's not a luxury vehicle. It ...
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    Re: Nurburgring 7:59.32

    Quote Originally Posted by The Tony Show View Post
    SHUT UP ABOUT THE GT-R.

    It's a coupe.

    It's not a luxury vehicle.

    It has no real back seat.

    It has a punishing ride.

    It is not, nor will it ever be a car that people in their right mind compare to a 4 door, luxury equipped CTS-V. This forum was nearly ruined by all the stupid GT-R posts- don't take us there again. If you want to talk about the GT-R, then GTFO and go find a GT-R forum.

    listen

    I could care less bout the "GT-r " as I consider that car does not have enough power. But I am a stickler for semantics.

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    Re: Nurburgring 7:59.32

    i'm gonna leave my gtr work and drive my gtrv home to my gtr house and drink some gtr beer, cya laters gtrforum

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    Re: Nurburgring 7:59.32

    Can we say Supra here?

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    Re: Nurburgring 7:59.32

    Quote Originally Posted by figgie View Post
    I am a stickler for semantics.
    Then you should understand the difference between an AWD coupe bred to be a race car and a RWD luxury sedan with ridiculous amounts of thrust.

    The comparison couldn't be more inappropriate or ludicrous, and I'm sick to death of every thread on every car forum on the entire Internet getting spammed up with GT-R comparisons.
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    Re: Nurburgring 7:59.32

    Quote Originally Posted by figgie View Post
    Can we say Supra here?
    onoes


    ...and now back to the new V being the fastest production sedan in the world:

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    Re: Nurburgring 7:59.32

    Quote Originally Posted by figgie View Post
    that is fine

    but my issue.

    since 2009 is not in full swing production. Just like the GT-r. It can not be called a production vehicle until there are NUMEROUS of them on the road, AND, a random sampling is taken from those produced cars and RAN.

    Otherwise, The GT-r absolutely smacks this car plus almost every other car into the ground with a 7:38. That is a whopping 20 second, forget whooping, MASSACARE. And I am not using the bystandard timed one that came in at below 7:30!

    Anyone in the market for an upcoming CTS-V could make the small stretch to purchase a GT-R. Those that wish to do that would be on a Nissan website. It's fine to make comparisons of cars but to go on about how the new CTS-V is essentially a waste of time b/c the GT-R will "massacare", err I mean, massacre it is pointless. Apples to oranges.

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    Re: Nurburgring 7:59.32

    Quote Originally Posted by The Tony Show View Post
    Then you should understand the difference between an AWD coupe bred to be a race car and a RWD luxury sedan with ridiculous amounts of thrust.

    The comparison couldn't be more inappropriate or ludicrous, and I'm sick to death of every thread on every car forum on the entire Internet getting spammed up with GT-R comparisons.
    Ridiculous amount of "thrust"?

    You mean acceleration.

    Never ridden an older AMG E55 or even the newer AMG SL55?

    now that I say that, Odd that I don't see any of the AMG series from Mercedes on that list. Curious.

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    Re: Nurburgring 7:59.32

    Quote Originally Posted by figgie View Post
    Ridiculous amount of "thrust"?

    You mean acceleration.

    Never ridden an older AMG E55 or even the newer AMG SL55?

    now that I say that, Odd that I don't see any of the AMG series from Mercedes on that list. Curious.
    No, I meant thrust. You've got to be kidding me, dude.

    8:05 --- 152.91 km/h -- Mercedes CLK 63 AMG Black Series
    8:06 --- 152.59 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG
    8:14 --- 150.12 km/h -- Mercedes SL 65 AMG,


    Epic fail. Go back to trolling somewhere else, and enjoy being on my ignore list.
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    Re: Nurburgring 7:59.32

    Quote Originally Posted by figgie View Post
    weight are about the same
    Weight are about 400 pounds difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by figgie View Post
    priced about the same
    priced about 25k different with GT-R dealer mark-ups.

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    Re: Nurburgring 7:59.32

    Quote Originally Posted by HushH View Post
    Weight are about 400 pounds difference.



    priced about 25k different with GT-R dealer mark-ups.

    dealer markup could be 100K+, and the people buying them should also buy a big 55 gallon drum of vasoline or perhaps some Mobil 1 will do them better.

    MSRP is what it is.


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    Re: Nurburgring 7:59.32

    8:06 - '02 Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG
    8:22 - BMW E46 M3
    8:26 - '01 Mercedes Benz SLK 32 AMG
    8:50 - '00 Mercedes Benz E55 AMG (with a note that it was on a shortened Nordschleife)

    Can not find a 'Ring time, but from what I have read, the newer E63 is slower than the E55.

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    Re: Nurburgring 7:59.32

    Quote Originally Posted by The Tony Show View Post
    No, I meant thrust. You've got to be kidding me, dude.

    8:05 --- 152.91 km/h -- Mercedes CLK 63 AMG Black Series
    8:06 --- 152.59 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG
    8:14 --- 150.12 km/h -- Mercedes SL 65 AMG,


    Epic fail. Go back to trolling somewhere else, and enjoy being on my ignore list.
    how cute,

    I hate Wiki but usually it is the most up to date. No where to be found as those numbers in the wiki tell you were they were pulled from (Magazine most, lots of mfg claim). Hell they even already updated the CTS-V information with the appropiate citiation (mfg claim)

    So on that note (since you got me on ignore).

    Makes your numbers total crap.

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    Re: Nurburgring 7:59.32

    Quote Originally Posted by gothicaleigh View Post
    8:06 - '02 Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG
    8:22 - BMW E46 M3
    8:26 - '01 Mercedes Benz SLK 32 AMG
    8:50 - '00 Mercedes Benz E55 AMG (with a note that it was on a shortened Nordschleife)

    Can not find a 'Ring time, but from what I have read, the newer E63 is slower than the E55.

    Just look up the wiki. I am trying to figure out where you guys are geting your numbers. Wiki only shows confirmed. So that is why I am curious what publication you are pulling those numbers from.

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    Re: Nurburgring 7:59.32

    Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooly sh*t!

    And who told me the V is not for the track???

    woot woot!

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    Re: Nurburgring 7:59.32

    Quote Originally Posted by figgie View Post
    dealer markup could be 100K+, and the people buying them should also buy a big 55 gallon drum of vasoline or perhaps some Mobil 1 will do them better.

    MSRP is what it is.


    Yippie, first time ever on someone ignore list!
    In that case there would be a shortage of vasoline as I believe all of the first year's production of GT-Rs are spoken for and most at a significant dealer mark-up.

    Until the sales prices come back more in-line with MSRP, I doubt many people will be cross-shopping the two.

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