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    Re: M/T COTY Base CTS Test Data - Interesting

    This thread went from objective to subject really quick!

    You guys Democrats?!

    Chris posts about performance numbers of the CTS and we're trying to find out where the V2 will end up. I think we're getting close! Good discussion!

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    Re: M/T COTY Base CTS Test Data - Interesting

    Quote Originally Posted by HITMONEY View Post
    I cringe at the thought of how many more months we are going to have to endure this bullshit.

    Just the facts and allot to read rather buying based on euphoria and being disappointed as some are with V1.


    Under promise and over deliver. Hope GM does the same for those buying the V2.


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    Re: M/T COTY Base CTS Test Data - Interesting

    Quote Originally Posted by NormV View Post
    Just the facts and allot to read rather buying based on euphoria and being disappointed as some are with V1.


    Under promise and over deliver. Hope GM does the same for those buying the V2.


    Norm
    I think you are taking it a weee bit further than that.

    "Porker", "Value Leader"

    Then bashing a technology you obviously know nothing about, MRC


    It is more than apparent that you dislike the car and come off as though you want to see it fail for reasons only you know.

    <shrug>

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    Re: M/T COTY Base CTS Test Data - Interesting

    Jasaero, the only thing I could find was. 8:15 for the M5 and 8:09 for the M6. This was right from the M5 Board.

    http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...ight=nurburing


    Do a search for V2 and most are supporting the home team in their second attempt to challenge the Germans.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jasaero View Post
    Good comparison! A BIT lighter(V1 weight) and good bit more power to weight, but extremely impressive numbers that are surprising for the weight and wheelbase. We'll see numbers soon enough. Still say it took the Ring in under 8 minutes already.

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    Re: M/T COTY Base CTS Test Data - Interesting

    Guys this is the forum about the new CTS-V. If you just want to post about why the old V is better, maybe the 2004-2007 forum would be a better place for that.

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    Re: M/T COTY Base CTS Test Data - Interesting

    Quote Originally Posted by NormV View Post
    MRC/DRC(mag shocks) are not the end all some of you have made it to be.

    http://forums.audiworld.com/rs4b7/msgs/19080.phtml

    The thread shows tuner who also races, caddy does not have one currently, says that once you change the spring rates or sway bars might as we'll throw those magnetic shocks in the trash!

    Would be neat since the RS4 is already using them if V2 could use the Ohlins stuff?
    Obviously, but the whole point of MRC is so you don't have to use RACECAR aggresive stiffness sway bar and springs to get NEAR race car cornering grip!! That's the whole point of MRC on performance oriented vehicles that also need a comfortable everyday ride.

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    Re: M/T COTY Base CTS Test Data - Interesting

    Quote Originally Posted by NormV View Post
    Jasaero, the only thing I could find was. 8:15 for the M5 and 8:09 for the M6. This was right from the M5 Board.

    http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...ight=nurburing


    Do a search for V2 and most are supporting the home team in their second attempt to challenge the Germans.


    Norm
    http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=34760

    They have sources for most of the times, but an outdated video link for the 7:52 M5 time. This was probably not an M5 with stock rubber or even street legal rubber for that matter, but pretty sure the V2 will be in this same realm though if given whatever upgrades that M5 might have had. RS6 or better for sure. Has better weight balance than the RS6, but not quite at M5 balance levels. It'll be in the same league no matter how you look at it.

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    Re: M/T COTY Base CTS Test Data - Interesting

    Base 2008 CTS hit 8:40(8:19 for V1) on the ring.

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    Re: M/T COTY Base CTS Test Data - Interesting

    Play nice please.
    The above post is my 2 cents....nothing more.

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    Re: M/T COTY Base CTS Test Data - Interesting

    Aren't they?

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    Re: M/T COTY Base CTS Test Data - Interesting

    Wow, I've missed a lot on this thread!
    I agree the V2 has a decent amount of improvements specifically geared to minimize the penalties of the car's ballooning weight but I think that it's a plan they will not be able to continue for long. You can only make the car so wide, the tires so large, the brakes so big, etc., etc., etc.
    I mean, what's next? 600hp w/4800lb. curb weight? Eventually, the damn thing's gonna have to be as wide as a Hummer with tires bigger than a Viper! Increase power, add weight and try to keep compensating for it? I just don't think it's the smart way to go.
    And my comments about the shocks were mainly meant to point out that IMO, too many people here seem to think they can accomplish things way beyond reality. It's a friggin' shock, nothing more. Like they could make up for all the other suspension components.
    My guess would be that if, and when people start seriously racing these cars, those shocks will be among the first things removed.

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    Re: M/T COTY Base CTS Test Data - Interesting

    Only about 5% of CTS-V owners (and that's being generous) really "race" their cars. The other 95% drive to work and back, and enjoy a twisty road on the weekend. Will those 5% ditch the MRC and go with a standard shock? Maybe, but we won't know until someone tests the damn thing!

    As an aside: I find it sad that there's more pissing about and degrading of this car HERE on the Cadillac Forums then there is on the M5 board. About 80% positive over there, if you care to have a look. Just sad, really.

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    Re: M/T COTY Base CTS Test Data - Interesting

    Quote Originally Posted by The Tony Show View Post
    As an aside: I find it sad that there's more pissing about and degrading of this car HERE on the Cadillac Forums then there is on the M5 board. About 80% positive over there, if you care to have a look. Just sad, really.
    Mostly initiated here by 1-3 people who have no intention of buying it anyways. At least for this person who plans to buy, it just ain't worth arguin' with these folks.

    If they intend not to buy, that's fine. But I'm going to fill 15 pages of message board arguing about it with them. They will still be arguing about it on these boards when they get from the new V.

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    Re: M/T COTY Base CTS Test Data - Interesting

    Quote Originally Posted by Katshot View Post
    Wow, I've missed a lot on this thread!
    I agree the V2 has a decent amount of improvements specifically geared to minimize the penalties of the car's ballooning weight but I think that it's a plan they will not be able to continue for long. You can only make the car so wide, the tires so large, the brakes so big, etc., etc., etc.
    I mean, what's next? 600hp w/4800lb. curb weight? Eventually, the damn thing's gonna have to be as wide as a Hummer with tires bigger than a Viper! Increase power, add weight and try to keep compensating for it? I just don't think it's the smart way to go.
    And my comments about the shocks were mainly meant to point out that IMO, too many people here seem to think they can accomplish things way beyond reality. It's a friggin' shock, nothing more. Like they could make up for all the other suspension components.
    My guess would be that if, and when people start seriously racing these cars, those shocks will be among the first things removed.
    Funny how the whole conversation about shocks is 90% you and NormV telling us how these won't make the V2 a competent handler. All the rest of us are doing is citing these shocks as a help, not a cure for weight.

    If you guys stop stating the obvious and acting as though it's a feather in your cap, then maybe the conversation on shocks ends. But I doubt you and Norm can do that...

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    Re: M/T COTY Base CTS Test Data - Interesting

    Honestly, I'm getting tired of all the negativity on this board. Anyone know how to add people to your ignore list. All I hear is whining from some people that really isn't adding anything and the car isn't even out yet.

    (now I'm whining about people whining)

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