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2009-2014 Cadillac CTS-V General Discussion Discussion, BMW M3 no longer "on the trailer" in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2009-2014; For a starting price over 60k I'll look at different cars frankly anyway - with BMW option packages I wouldn't ...
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    Re: BMW M3 no longer "on the trailer"

    For a starting price over 60k I'll look at different cars frankly anyway - with BMW option packages I wouldn't be surprised an M3 would reach $80,000.

    I'll be fine if its faster, I can only afford a used V2, and I can pocket $39,000, and sleep fine knowing I'm 1-2 10th slower. I don't particularly like the looks, but a 3500lb M4 with these great power number will be a great driving car - more power too them! ATS-V is going to have their hands full.

    I'm more interested in the Lexus RC-F coupe, though unfort it probably won't beat out the bimmer.....I'm also interested to see what the new C63 will do....which is also better looking than the BMW and probably more expensive.

    I'm fine with a 8 year newer platform being 1/10th faster....I can deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaVeNous View Post

    Do you even sense bro?
    Help me understand your comment please?
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    Re: BMW M3 no longer "on the trailer"

    I would be curious to know who is posting the high 11 numbers. Is it the car mags? A few of us stock guys can run sub 12's trapping 118+ (ahem). Still a fast car but not by much.

    I can't wait to see what is coming out. I was looking at a turbo ATS just for fun to replace the wife's car but the new one's don't come with a manual. Guess they are reworking it. But if an ATS-V came out I would seriously consider picking one up.

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    Re: BMW M3 no longer "on the trailer"

    I ran 11.64@119mph with CAI and drag radials. Stock PS2's suck btw. I'll have the Supersports on by Tuesday. I believe that 11.85's are possible with Supersports.

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    Re: BMW M3 no longer "on the trailer"

    Quote Originally Posted by Xaqtly View Post
    The new M3/M4 is very fast, I'm seeing numbers like high 11s @ 120
    Meant the M3/M4 when I was talking about where the numbers were coming from. We got plenty of documented guys in the 11's

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    I rather the RC F over the M4 any day. Caddy better pull off the ATS styling wise because the RC is a show stopper!

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    Re: BMW M3 no longer "on the trailer"

    The RC is that thing that's so ugly you can't look away. Sorry. I'm just very passionate about how ugly it is.

    http://www.autoweek.com/article/2013...news/131129979

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    Re: BMW M3 no longer "on the trailer"

    curious if it's true. Everyone seems to claim BMW's are more expensive to fix. For those that own a eurocar is this true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dennych View Post
    curious if it's true. Everyone seems to claim BMW's are more expensive to fix. For those that own a eurocar is this true?
    Actually I find BMW's very inexpensive to own. New car service contract covers everything. Used certified cars can purchase service contracts as well.
    On our 9th BMW and have never paid extra for any service other than winter wheels and tires.
    Obviously your paying for the service contract but I find it a bargain.
    On the contrary my 13 CTSV 6MT coupe simply can't be fixed. Clicking wheels, wind noise, clunking tires in reverse turns, pulsating brake pedal at high speed.
    I would never have to tolerate any of this in my BMW. Sad example of the gap that still exists between GM and BMW quality.

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    Re: BMW M3 no longer "on the trailer"

    RC = Infiniti G37 for me. Now the Jaguar F-type coupe, that is a show stopper. The best part is they don't hold their value worth a flip so that $100k Jag will be $60k 3 years from now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CVP33 View Post
    RC = Infiniti G37 for me. Now the Jaguar F-type coupe, that is a show stopper. The best part is they don't hold their value worth a flip so that $100k Jag will be $60k 3 years from now.
    That's true with the Mercedes also.

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    A buddy of mine has been waiting for a manual wagon to be in his price range. He finally found one he could live with. But it was still a 2010 with 32k miles for $42k. The V holds its value much better.

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    Re: BMW M3 no longer "on the trailer"

    Quote Originally Posted by shortshift View Post
    Actually I find BMW's very inexpensive to own. New car service contract covers everything. Used certified cars can purchase service contracts as well.
    On our 9th BMW and have never paid extra for any service other than winter wheels and tires.
    Obviously your paying for the service contract but I find it a bargain.
    On the contrary my 13 CTSV 6MT coupe simply can't be fixed. Clicking wheels, wind noise, clunking tires in reverse turns, pulsating brake pedal at high speed.
    I would never have to tolerate any of this in my BMW. Sad example of the gap that still exists between GM and BMW quality.
    I was mainly referring to after the 5 year free maintenance and warranty run out.

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    Re: BMW M3 no longer "on the trailer"

    Quote Originally Posted by shortshift View Post
    Actually I find BMW's very inexpensive to own. New car service contract covers everything. Used certified cars can purchase service contracts as well.
    On our 9th BMW and have never paid extra for any service other than winter wheels and tires.
    Obviously your paying for the service contract but I find it a bargain.
    On the contrary my 13 CTSV 6MT coupe simply can't be fixed. Clicking wheels, wind noise, clunking tires in reverse turns, pulsating brake pedal at high speed.
    I would never have to tolerate any of this in my BMW. Sad example of the gap that still exists between GM and BMW quality.
    You my friend are either:

    A) Very lucky in your past ownership of BMW
    B) Delusional
    C) Always leased and therefore never had to actually pay for a german car to be fixed out of warranty.....

    Parts are WAY more for Benz, BMW, Audi, and you are limited to a dealer in most cases, which charge a premium. This is simply a fact.

    As to which is more reliable, thats a whole other argument, but I'll let the major reporting services speak for themselves, which they have already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaVeNous View Post

    You my friend are either:

    A) Very lucky in your past ownership of BMW
    B) Delusional
    C) Always leased and therefore never had to actually pay for a german car to be fixed out of warranty.....

    Parts are WAY more for Benz, BMW, Audi, and you are limited to a dealer in most cases, which charge a premium. This is simply a fact.

    As to which is more reliable, thats a whole other argument, but I'll let the major reporting services speak for themselves, which they have already.
    Last initial quality report I saw put Cadillac right there in the mix. Under Mercedes ever so slightly but better than BMW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CavemanB52 View Post

    Last initial quality report I saw put Cadillac right there in the mix. Under Mercedes ever so slightly but better than BMW.
    You can quote all the published reports you care to and believe them if you want.
    My experience is contrary.
    The level of quality and customer service with BMW is consistently higher than Cadillac. That doesn't make Cadillac undesirable just less than BMW. I am commenting on my personal experience with dozens of cars.
    I will continue to own both, and likely some others, and continue to be realistic about them all. None are perfect so I will choose my cars based on performance and desire and live with the results.
    You are all free to do the same.

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