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    Newbie help with year model variants, manual or auto questions

    Hello V enthusiast, I'm a newbie and I'm finally in the market again for V8 sedan. I've been eyeballin the return of the 2014 Chevrolet Impala SS which I have been patiently waiting for them to hit the showrooms and get the final pricing. I've also had a strong desire since 2009 own the worlds fastest domestic sedan but sticker shock for a new one was waay out of my price range until now. The 2014 Impala SS should be around $42K and change which isn't bad but that price points also puts me into a pre-owned 2009 to 2012 V range.

    I really miss driving a manual 6 spd. but don't mind a automatic so long as it has paddle shifters. The Impala SS only comes with automatic so my question about the CTS-V is how's the automatic compared to shifting the 6 spd. manual?

    I'd like some input on performance difference between the manual vs the automatic V.

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    Re: Newbie help with year model variants, manual or auto questions

    I think these guys are going to throw up if they have to answer another thread like this. Just go to google and type "cadillacforums cts-v auto manual" and multiple results comparing the auto and manual come up from this site alone.

    It sounds like deep down you want the manual and from what I've seen in these forums that's the most solid combo in terms of reliability.

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    Re: Newbie help with year model variants, manual or auto questions

    Cad CTS-V2 automatic versus manual trans data (as of 01-02-2012):

    Manual trans (M6): Tremec TR6060 6 speed manual,
    fully synchronized with single overdrive (MG9):
    Gear ratios (:1) 1st: 2.66, 2nd: 1.78, 3rd: 1.30, 4th: 1.00,
    5th: 0.80, 6th: 0.63, final: 3.73, reverse: 2.90

    Gas Guzzler (GG) tax of $1300, or half that of the A6
    Faster by 16 MPH (191 MPH versus 175 MPH (governed))
    A tad slower in the 1/4 & on the street
    A tad better mileage than the auto but probably not significant
    About 32 more RWHP than an A6 on average as measured on a Dynojet
    About 27 more RWTQ than an A6 on average as measured on a Dynojet
    About 95 lbs lighter that the auto
    No remote start feature
    Has “no lift-shift” feature


    Automatic trans (A6): Hydra-matic 6L90E 6 speed
    electronically controlled automatic overdrive with
    torque converter clutch (MYD): Gear ratios: (1 1st:
    4.03, 2nd: 2.36, 3rd: 1.53, 4th: 1.15, 5th: 0.85, 6th: 0.67,
    final: 3.23, reverse: 3.06

    Gas Guzzler (GG) tax of $2600, or twice that of the M6
    Slower by 16 MPH (175 MPH (governed) versus 191 MPH)
    A tad quicker in the 1/4 & on the street
    A tad worse mileage than the manual but probably not significant
    About 32 less RWHP than an M6 on average as measured on a Dynojet
    About 27 less RWTQ that an M6 on average as measured on a Dynojet
    About 95 lbs heavier that the manual
    Remote start feature
    Normal mode initially starts in 1st gear, then starts in 2nd gear thereafter
    Manual mode starts in 1st gear always

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    Re: Newbie help with year model variants, manual or auto questions

    Sorry, I guess I should tried the search feature! One day I'll want to do some mods and I just wanted to hear some first hand experience from those who have driven both or reasons for their choice. Like would a higher stall converter for an auto improve performance or drivability? I guess I should have posted this in the performance mod section.

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    Re: Newbie help with year model variants, manual or auto questions

    You're good. Here's the most recent thread. http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...a-d-09-a6.html

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    Re: Newbie help with year model variants, manual or auto questions

    Drive both. My DD is a manual and I have bikes to get that fix. I don't track, so my final decision was the auto. I don't regret it either.

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    Re: Newbie help with year model variants, manual or auto questions

    Ivwishing your pm box is full

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    Re: Newbie help with year model variants, manual or auto questions

    Don't look at it in terms of "which one is better". They are both transmissions that work fine. Look at it in these terms instead:

    - Do you love driving automatics, or do you love driving a manual?
    - When you get rental cars, do you wish you were driving a manual instead?
    - When you get into a manual car, do you wish it were an automatic?

    If you find yourself wishing you had a manual, then you need to get a CTS-V with a manual. If you find yourself preferring an automatic, then you need to get the auto.

    One trap I've seen a lot of people fall into is the idea that even though you may like driving a manual, this is a big heavy Cadillac and therefore it should have an auto. Don't allow yourself to think that way, the CTS-V is a high performance car, and the manual gives it an entirely different personality than the auto. If you enjoy driving a manual, then you will enjoy driving the V with a manual.

    The way you worded your post suggests you would rather have a manual, ex. "I really miss driving a manual 6 spd" and "but don't mind an automatic".

    You shouldn't settle for something you "don't mind", you should get what you "really miss". That said, there is nothing wrong with either transmission. It's not that one is better than the other, it's about personal choice. Take the time to figure out which one you would really rather have, and don't short-change yourself.

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    Re: Newbie help with year model variants, manual or auto questions



    So I test drove 2 V sedans both A6 and I totally forgot I wanted a MT6 so here's my A6. Impala SS what? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by iVwishing View Post

    So I test drove 2 V sedans both A6 and I totally forgot I wanted a MT6 so here's my A6. Impala SS what? lol
    Well, there is no similarity between a FWD Impala and a V. None.


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    Re: Newbie help with year model variants, manual or auto questions

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigjimsho View Post
    Well, there is no similarity between a FWD Impala and a V. None.
    You are correct but I'm referring to Chevy's new 2014 Impala SS which has a 6.2L and rear wheel drive.

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    Re: Newbie help with year model variants, manual or auto questions

    Buy both, the SS and V.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iVwishing

    So I test drove 2 V sedans both A6 and I totally forgot I wanted a MT6 so here's my A6. Impala SS what? lol
    There is no Impala SS nor are there plans to be. The new Chevy SS is not to wear the Impala nameplate.

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