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    Thinking of Autocrossing the V Wagon

    Hey guys,

    I'm considering autocrossing the Vwagon for the first time and was wondering if anyone had any advice.
    http://www.speedventures.com/events/...il.aspx?id=429

    Never autocrossed before except with mfr's cars at events. Anything in particular for prep I should take care of?

    All I know thusfar is make sure to have a helmet and remove the fuses for the airbags.

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    Have fun and fully turn off traction and stability control. It's a great way to learn the cars limits and handling. Let me know how the fuse pulling goes...very worthwhile prevention though its weird the V blows its bags under 1G of driving loads.

    You'll find the wagon is a very large car for auto cross. The torque will help but the lack of nimbleness will keep it from being competitive. It's in the same class as 5.0 mustangs which will trounce it.

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    Re: Thinking of Autocrossing the V Wagon

    It's not quite the same as autocross, but I took my V Wagon to a couple of HPDE events hosted by Hooked on Driving. It's not competitive, but you do get to drive on real race tracks, you get instruction, and it's a friendly atmosphere. What I lost on the corners I made up for on the straights. It was a lot of fun! http://www.hookedondriving.com/

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    Re: Thinking of Autocrossing the V Wagon

    I've found it to be reasonably competitive at least locally in auto x, though i have a lot of auto x'ing experience in other not well suited for auto x, highish HP, RWD vehicles (engine swapped 94 Tbird and a Lightning).

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    Re: Thinking of Autocrossing the V Wagon

    yeah, I don't expect to be killing it at autocross of course given the weight. But I just wanted to have fun tossing it around somewhere relatively safe. I'd love a track day but they get exponentially more expensive from what I hear and far more risk of causing damage to the vehicle. Maybe after a few autocross runs I'll have the confidence to join one of the cadillac challenge events.

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    Re: Thinking of Autocrossing the V Wagon

    I used to autocross a 2010 STI. I thought about autocrossing the V but it's just so big and heavy. I'm planning on lapping instead, it's more along the lines of what the car was designed to do

    BTW you don't need to go 10/10ths on the track. Even 7/10ths in this car is a total blast, just put in good brake fluid

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    Re: Thinking of Autocrossing the V Wagon

    Hmmmmmm

    Seems like the consensus is auto crossing it might be a waste? The reason I was leaning towards it is it's easier on the car and less expensive overall.

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    Re: Thinking of Autocrossing the V Wagon

    It's only a waste ifyour trying to win or get the fastest time of the day. You know the limitations already so you can go in to a track day to just have fun - and that's what its about imho.

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    Re: Thinking of Autocrossing the V Wagon

    I'm not trying to schill the HPDE events, but you do get to go on a proper race track to really let the car stretch its legs - long straights, high speed corners and sometimes a hairpin or two depending on the track. It's loads of fun, there's no passing allowed, there's an instructor with the rookie drivers, and there's very strict safety standards. I would guess that the risks of damaging your car are higher on a California daily commute than at one of these HPDE events

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    Re: Thinking of Autocrossing the V Wagon

    Quote Originally Posted by sfvagon View Post
    I'm not trying to schill the HPDE events, but you do get to go on a proper race track to really let the car stretch its legs - long straights, high speed corners and sometimes a hairpin or two depending on the track. It's loads of fun, there's no passing allowed, there's an instructor with the rookie drivers, and there's very strict safety standards. I would guess that the risks of damaging your car are higher on a California daily commute than at one of these HPDE events
    Noticed they have one in early august at the speedway. maybe I'll check it out

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    Re: Thinking of Autocrossing the V Wagon

    Quote Originally Posted by spearfish25 View Post
    Have fun and fully turn off traction and stability control. It's a great way to learn the cars limits and handling. Let me know how the fuse pulling goes...very worthwhile prevention though its weird the V blows its bags under 1G of driving loads.

    You'll find the wagon is a very large car for auto cross. The torque will help but the lack of nimbleness will keep it from being competitive. It's in the same class as 5.0 mustangs which will trounce it.

    Serious? The airbags deploy if you hit 1G?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dennych View Post
    Hmmmmmm

    Seems like the consensus is auto crossing it might be a waste? The reason I was leaning towards it is it's easier on the car and less expensive overall.
    Buying a V and not wringing it out is a waste.

    If you can master a road course but are clueless on an autocross course, then you don't truly know how to drive your car.

    When we had V Day I at Summit Point Shenandoah, some complained it wasn't good for the V as it was tight with few good straights. I think that's a copout. I enjoyed making the heavy V manage the tight sections.

    If you only want to do what your car is best at and not its worst, you are a frontrunner and a poser.

    Get it on that autocross RIGHT MEOW!

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    Serious? The airbags deploy if you hit 1G?
    No. There was one freak occurrence. My V had readings of 1.45g and I was throwing it so violently on my last autocross course, OnStar called thinking I was in an accident...

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    Re: Thinking of Autocrossing the V Wagon

    You can pull the airbag fuse and not have to worry.

    If you're lapping I'd recommend leaving it in comp mode and not completely TCS off. It gives you a bit of wiggle room if you get out of shape.

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    Re: Thinking of Autocrossing the V Wagon

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigjimsho View Post
    Buying a V and not wringing it out is a waste.

    If you can master a road course but are clueless on an autocross course, then you don't truly know how to drive your car.

    When we had V Day I at Summit Point Shenandoah, some complained it wasn't good for the V as it was tight with few good straights. I think that's a copout. I enjoyed making the heavy V manage the tight sections.

    If you only want to do what your car is best at and not its worst, you are a frontrunner and a poser.

    Get it on that autocross RIGHT MEOW!

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    No. There was one freak occurrence. My V had readings of 1.45g and I was throwing it so violently on my last autocross course, OnStar called thinking I was in an accident...
    Oh ok, sounds good! hahaha

    I've gotten up to .96 on the G-meter... When that was posted, It freaked me out thinking I was 0.04G's from airbags deploying, lmao.

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