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    What should I ask for my 2011 CTS-V, Sport Wagon, Black Diamond Edition

    Think I am pressing my luck and certainly hammering my fuel budget with this beauty

    2 years of not allowing anything to get by me is probably enough...and nothing did.....

    Think about a dozen of these were built

    Car has 20,000 miles and the balance of the 5 year warranty

    Pristine, all CTS-V options, auto transmisson, yellow Brembos, Recaros...etc

    I was thinking it should be worth 50K

    Opinions?

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    Re: What should I ask for my 2011 CTS-V, Sport Wagon, Black Diamond Edition

    I think there were more than a dozen of those built in 2011

    Autotrader search indicates most are asking 42-57k for an auto 2011 wagon with the majority clustered at 45-50k. Searching Autotrader and Cars.com would be a good first step. Then post in the classies here.

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    Re: What should I ask for my 2011 CTS-V, Sport Wagon, Black Diamond Edition

    Getting 50K would be tough I'd think, more like a 45K asking and you'd be more likely just to have it not sit there not selling.

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    Re: What should I ask for my 2011 CTS-V, Sport Wagon, Black Diamond Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by 1997BlackETC View Post
    Getting 50K would be tough I'd think, more like a 45K asking and you'd be more likely just to have it not sit there not selling.
    Yep, like a house. How fast do you want to get rid of it.

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    Re: What should I ask for my 2011 CTS-V, Sport Wagon, Black Diamond Edition

    I'm in the market for one but not in a rush and looking for a good deal. Lowest I have seen advertised is 42k and it still sat for a month. Seems like if they are white, silver, or thunder grey they go fast. Black and the red seem to sit longer.

    OP, pm me once you have settled on a price.

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    Re: What should I ask for my 2011 CTS-V, Sport Wagon, Black Diamond Edition

    My original plan was to wait a few years and take it to Barrett-Jackson

    In 2011, they came out with the Black Diamond Edition, codes 6DN35, PCH, 1SV

    This was a 1 year model

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLjku2PIOBY

    You could get the bits in 2012 and 2013, but not as a package

    Every option, yellow Brembo calipers, black diamond paint, black graphite wheels

    There were very few produced

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    Re: What should I ask for my 2011 CTS-V, Sport Wagon, Black Diamond Edition

    I'm negotiating a deal on a fully loaded 2011 coupe (not Black Diamond, but Crystal Red for $995) that has just over 4000 miles and the asking price is $51,000.

    Good luck

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    Re: What should I ask for my 2011 CTS-V, Sport Wagon, Black Diamond Edition

    It is an intoxicating experience to drive on a regular basis a vehicle that will flat outrun, out accelerate and out-stop and out handle 99.9% of all vehicles on the road

    But it is also a problem that because you can, you are probably prone to do that, else you would not be looking at such a vehicle in the first place

    My token nod to practicality was getting it in wagon form...which has proven to be very handy as we move between Arizona and Oregon regularly

    http://rearwheelhorsepower.com/super...ead-episode-4/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metacomet
    It is an intoxicating experience to drive on a regular basis a vehicle that will flat outrun, out accelerate and out-stop and out handle 99.9% of all vehicles on the road

    But it is also a problem that because you can, you are probably prone to do that, else you would not be looking at such a vehicle in the first place

    My token nod to practicality was getting it in wagon form...which has proven to be very handy as we move between Arizona and Oregon regularly

    http://rearwheelhorsepower.com/super...ead-episode-4/
    Let me know when you have set an asking price. I'm interested.

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    Re: What should I ask for my 2011 CTS-V, Sport Wagon, Black Diamond Edition

    I purchased an Red '11 Vagon with 8K miles for $52K, and that came CPO so I basically got a new four year warranty, plus the service/maintenance package.

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    Re: What should I ask for my 2011 CTS-V, Sport Wagon, Black Diamond Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by adianaty View Post
    Let me know when you have set an asking price. I'm interested.
    What's your location?

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    Re: What should I ask for my 2011 CTS-V, Sport Wagon, Black Diamond Edition

    Not sure who you are asking

    I am in Tucson now

    Will head to Portland around the 1st of June

    Actually will probably wait till I am in Portland to sell it

    Need to buy another car then, and no sales tax is significant on these deals

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    Re: What should I ask for my 2011 CTS-V, Sport Wagon, Black Diamond Edition

    The only thing that really hurts the price is the year. But FWIW I am seeing 2012 wagons in the $50-52 range (often w/ similar or fewer miles).

    As with every private sale, you have to be cheaper than the dealer for two reasons: you have to lure people away from the "dealer experience" and locale convenience where they pay to have someone else do the paperwork, title, tags, etc; and you have to compete with the better financing terms through dealerships. Even if someone secures financing on their own, the rates are usually 50 basis points higher simply because it's a private sale.

    Given that the cards are stacked against you (ie dealer), there are plenty of auto trans wagons, yours is a very nice Diamond Package w/ recaros - but no CPO and 20K mileage and the tail end of warranty - I'd say you're going to wind up around $47K on a good day. I think 2010's will be low/mid $40's; but let's face it these wagons are still pretty impressive and this is the last year, so I expect they'll continue to command a relative premium.

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    Re: What should I ask for my 2011 CTS-V, Sport Wagon, Black Diamond Edition

    Yes the fact you won't be able to get em anymore will help out them holding their value going forward. I saw that happen with my last car a pontiac g8gt.

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    Re: What should I ask for my 2011 CTS-V, Sport Wagon, Black Diamond Edition

    I dunno..

    Obviously what I am probing is the "relative premium", and at 50K, doesn't seem like that much for what will probably wind up being a collectible car

    This car was available for a single model year

    The wagon itself is being discontinued after 2013

    They didn't make many CTS Wagons, they made a fraction of those in the V version, and a very small number of those with the unique PCH (Black Diamond Edition) designator, and only in the 2011 model year

    These are factors that drive prices on rare vehicles at auction

    The performance attributes will make it desirable, the rarity will make it worth mothballing for a few years

    So, yup, if it was an ordinary street variety CTS-V Wagon, the dealer advantage would make a difference

    This is a car that no dealer has, or can get, and I am in the normal range for such cars at 50K

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