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2009-2014 Cadillac CTS-V General Discussion Discussion, Installer refuses to install Pirelli Winter Sottozero tires in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2009-2014; Hi all, have a 2011 V wagon that I wanted to get winter tires on. Went on the tire rack ...
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    Installer refuses to install Pirelli Winter Sottozero tires

    Hi all, have a 2011 V wagon that I wanted to get winter tires on. Went on the tire rack website and got the recommended 255/40R-19 Pirelli Winter Sottozero Serie II 240, and had them shipped to the recommended installer. The recommended installer (a Firestone shop) said the rears weren't wide enough (they're all the same size, not staggered like the summer tires I had on). I did a three-way call with them and Tire Rack. The Tire Rack rep assured the tech that they would indeed fit, so they said they'd go ahead and install them. Get a call back from the installer 20 minutes later saying he had called Cadillac and they recommended against putting these tires on, it would affect the speedometer etc. So the tire shop refuses to install them.

    Does anyone have these tires and can confirm they work fine? I think the shop is full of it, I'm taking the car somewhere else, but just wanted to be doubly sure.

    Thanks

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    Re: Installer refuses to install Pirelli Winter Sottozero tires

    Tire Rack says you can put 255s on a wheel up to 10" wide. That's really narrow and the installer would be busting his ass since it would be a pain, just like putting 295s on a 9.5" wide wheel. I'd take it up with Tire Rack since they said they are a recommended installer.

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    Re: Installer refuses to install Pirelli Winter Sottozero tires

    Yeah, I'm supposed to be getting a call from Tire Rack, but in the meantime I wanted to vent

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    The second the tech said it will affect the speedometer, he lost all credibility. The rolling diameter is the same. Find another installer...

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    Re: Installer refuses to install Pirelli Winter Sottozero tires

    Just curious guys...

    If I configure a winter tire setup (rubber and rims) on tire rack... Will all the rims they recommend clear the calipers? Do they take care of those calculations, or do I need to do my own math?

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    Re: Installer refuses to install Pirelli Winter Sottozero tires

    Quote Originally Posted by Zhariak View Post
    Just curious guys...

    If I configure a winter tire setup (rubber and rims) on tire rack... Will all the rims they recommend clear the calipers? Do they take care of those calculations, or do I need to do my own math?
    All the tire rack options (and more) will fit. Tire rack is only showing 19" options...

    Read this thread about the 18" setup I put on my car for this winter...
    http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...nter-tire.html

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    Re: Installer refuses to install Pirelli Winter Sottozero tires

    255s all around have been documented on this site to fit without problems. Find another installer.

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    Re: Installer refuses to install Pirelli Winter Sottozero tires

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckbehindaprius View Post
    Hi all, have a 2011 V wagon that I wanted to get winter tires on. Went on the tire rack website and got the recommended 255/40R-19 Pirelli Winter Sottozero Serie II 240, and had them shipped to the recommended installer. The recommended installer (a Firestone shop) said the rears weren't wide enough (they're all the same size, not staggered like the summer tires I had on). I did a three-way call with them and Tire Rack. The Tire Rack rep assured the tech that they would indeed fit, so they said they'd go ahead and install them. Get a call back from the installer 20 minutes later saying he had called Cadillac and they recommended against putting these tires on, it would affect the speedometer etc. So the tire shop refuses to install them.

    Does anyone have these tires and can confirm they work fine? I think the shop is full of it, I'm taking the car somewhere else, but just wanted to be doubly sure.

    Thanks
    Are you installing the winter tires on your stock rims?
    Seems excessive to rip off the tires and reinstall twice year!
    Why don't you just get the winter tires on separate rims...

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    Re: Installer refuses to install Pirelli Winter Sottozero tires

    He says: "it will affect the speedometer."
    I hear: "but I don' wanna!"

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    Have 255's on factory rims all around ( 2 seasons) now, work well for winter.

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    Re: Installer refuses to install Pirelli Winter Sottozero tires

    Quote Originally Posted by shchow View Post
    Are you installing the winter tires on your stock rims?
    Seems excessive to rip off the tires and reinstall twice year!
    Why don't you just get the winter tires on separate rims...
    The way we go through rear tires, that option isn't that bad now!

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    Re: Installer refuses to install Pirelli Winter Sottozero tires

    Hi all,

    I also recommend a second set of rims for the winter. I got Sottozeros 255/45 front and 285/40 rear (they fit quiet close..) the speedo is totally exact now (no safety margin left to avoid tickets ).
    Do no use too "small" dimension on the rear axle due to the power of our cars. Suggest a wider tire will left last than "only" a 255/40. Even with the 285's rear, the traction control
    needs to work on dry streets (of course a huge difference to the PS2's).

    Greets from Switzerland,

    Caol

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    Re: Installer refuses to install Pirelli Winter Sottozero tires

    Well, I ended up going with another installer that did it no problem. They handle great! I replaced my summer tires on the same rims because they were shot. For next summer I'll get a set of the same rims and put summer tires on them

    Thanks for all the replies.

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    Well, I ended up going with another installer that did it no problem. They handle great! I replaced my summer tires on the same rims because they were shot. For next summer I'll get a set of the same rims and put summer tires on them

    Thanks for all the replies.

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