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    Re: Laser Jammers and Radar Detectors! What do YOU use?

    Guys, you may not know that a radar's frequency "drifts" slightly when there are temperature changes during normal seasonal changes. With the Passport 9500ix that means that the motion detectors, etc., that have been "learned" and no longer trigger alerts, have to be "learned" again by the detector to keep from getting alerts every time you pass them. Obviously, that suggests how unlikely it is that police radar would exactly match up to a K band motion detector. But if you know an area where police radar is frequently present, common sense tells you to slow down in that area, regardless if you get a signal. Land-based electronic warfare measures and countermeasures change all the time, so no system is perfect.

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    Re: Laser Jammers and Radar Detectors! What do YOU use?

    I have owned multiple 9500ci systems and have always been very pleased with them. Have saved my ass plenty. Especially here in GA, where laser is the weapon of choice recently. Just got mine installed on the V and it looks damn good. Had it custom built onto the steering column and the laser shifters flushed into the grille. Haven't been hit by a laser yet, but I am sure its just a matter of time...

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    Re: Laser Jammers and Radar Detectors! What do YOU use?

    Quote Originally Posted by KFinnell81 View Post
    I have owned multiple 9500ci systems and have always been very pleased with them. Have saved my ass plenty. Especially here in GA, where laser is the weapon of choice recently. Just got mine installed on the V and it looks damn good. Had it custom built onto the steering column and the laser shifters flushed into the grille. Haven't been hit by a laser yet, but I am sure its just a matter of time...
    Can yu post, pm or email me a pic of your laser shifters as mounted? Does mounting behind the Grill diminish it's capability too much?!
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    Re: Laser Jammers and Radar Detectors! What do YOU use?

    I use a V1. I mount it in multiple cars but I have a blendmouint for it in my CTS-V. I need to hard wire it but I've just been plugging it in. Laser detection is pretty much useless unless you happen to have a car in front of you that the laser bounces off of. If he directly targets you with the laser, your detector is just telling you that you are about to get pulled over. I find they use Laser a good bit in NY State. I do a lot of traveling and Ka seems to be the most used on the east coast. I have X turned off as very few Police still us that. It is usually those traffic radar signs that use X.

    I like the 9500ci for all the bells and whistles but I honestly, I don't like that it will capture false radar spots and not signal on them again. I know one department in my area sets up in an area where you always pick up a radar signal. Maybe you can turn that off. The other things it can do are cool, but I really don't need them. It gets very good reviews so I think it certainly a contender.

    I have had 2 V1's and the first I had for many years. I threw it in when selling a car so I bought a new one 4 years ago and it has never let me down. You learn how to pick up real signals from fake ones but it does take some time to learn it. Some will say the arrows on the V1 are a gimmiick. Just today I was coming back from Albany, NY on 87 and I kept picking up a moderate signal from the rear. I slowed down and the signal got stronger as this truck approached. Now I'm doing 65 and sure enough, he was hiding behind the truck and came flying out and nailed the guy who was right behind me when I first picked up the signal, moved over and slowed down. I would never have thought he was behind me without the V1' arrows.

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    Re: Laser Jammers and Radar Detectors! What do YOU use?

    Viva V1 FTW

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    Re: Laser Jammers and Radar Detectors! What do YOU use?

    Quote Originally Posted by kwilson View Post
    K40 RL360 with EX2 laser defuser and have nothing but good things to say about it !! I spent a little extra and bought the nav-tv GR-R40 Radar detector interface that shows warnings and On/Off status of the K40 radar detector as messges on the cluster instead of the detector's own LEDs.

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    Re: Laser Jammers and Radar Detectors! What do YOU use?

    I wanted a windshield mount radar detector so I can move it from vehicle to vehicle so I chose the 9500ix. The Valantine V1 came highly recommended as well but the shear amount of false signals that I may incur in a city like Atlanta steered me away. I liked the GPS which will memorize repeat signals and I believe automatically switch from city to highway mode based on the speed of the car.

    I will also be getting the Laser Interceptor with 3 or 4 heads for the V for the occasional testing session. There are too many cars around here for 15-20 on a regular basis so I really can only drive as fast as traffic allows which is 10-15 over and the cops on the highway don't even lift their heads for 10 over.

    Thanks for all of your input. I have 30 days to return it to Best Buy if I don't like it, no questions asked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotrod-Realtor
    There is a construction area where I live where fines are $250 plus and it is a magnet for cops. Whenever the cops are in that area my detector always goes off. My guess would be that they are not there every time I go by therefore the detector doesn't "remember" the area and mark it as a non threat. Also the chances of the radar gun being the exact same frequency is minimal. Several different cops hang out in that area and they use different guns (frequencies).
    The other important item is the different radar bands. The newer band seems to be KA and I don't believe box stores use that band. I also don't think that the radar detector marks KA band as non threats because they are utilized by LEO only.
    They don't. When I hear Ka, I notice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike02z
    I use a V1. I mount it in multiple cars but I have a blendmouint for it in my CTS-V. I need to hard wire it but I've just been plugging it in. Laser detection is pretty much useless unless you happen to have a car in front of you that the laser bounces off of. If he directly targets you with the laser, your detector is just telling you that you are about to get pulled over. I find they use Laser a good bit in NY State. I do a lot of traveling and Ka seems to be the most used on the east coast. I have X turned off as very few Police still us that. It is usually those traffic radar signs that use X.

    I like the 9500ci for all the bells and whistles but I honestly, I don't like that it will capture false radar spots and not signal on them again. I know one department in my area sets up in an area where you always pick up a radar signal. Maybe you can turn that off. The other things it can do are cool, but I really don't need them. It gets very good reviews so I think it certainly a contender.

    I have had 2 V1's and the first I had for many years. I threw it in when selling a car so I bought a new one 4 years ago and it has never let me down. You learn how to pick up real signals from fake ones but it does take some time to learn it. Some will say the arrows on the V1 are a gimmiick. Just today I was coming back from Albany, NY on 87 and I kept picking up a moderate signal from the rear. I slowed down and the signal got stronger as this truck approached. Now I'm doing 65 and sure enough, he was hiding behind the truck and came flying out and nailed the guy who was right behind me when I first picked up the signal, moved over and slowed down. I would never have thought he was behind me without the V1' arrows.
    NY Staties were early adopters of laser. I got nailed in upstate NY in '96 by laser. From 1.5 miles away. My V1 told me. However, I find they use Ka almost exclusively now. And they tend to keep them on all the time. The V1 picks it up beautifully.

    However, for being useless against laser, I highly disagree. Laser fragments have been caught by my V1 from reflections of the tile walls in the Ted Williams Tunnel in Boston. Some punk kid in a Civic had beem blocking me for a couple of miles when I was hustling to the airport for a pickup. The officer had targeted another vehicle in front of us when the V1 caught it. There is a bend so there was no direct line of sight. It HAD TO BE fragments. As I was passing the punk, caught it and slowed down. The punk got nabbed instead. There have been other instances where the V1 caught fragments through the windows of cars in front of me that I was catching up to.

    One time I was driving my parent's '72 2002 down from a friend's wedding in ME. I was in NH and my Ka kept going off with the arrow behind. The pulses got stronger. Maybe every 20 seconds. I got to the speed limit and stayed there. But everytime the Ka went off I'd tap my brakes. I did this right to the point the NH state trooper was on my tail. Since I had 2 bad experiences(1 with a trooper tailgating me badly at 3AM and citing me for 82 in a 65 when I had passed him with someone else pulled over and kept the cruise on at 62) with troopers, my attitude left me to want to play games. He hit me with Ka about another 3-4 times and then blew past me. Everytime I was tappimg my brakes. Not the smartest thing to do but in a small way it satisfied my need for retribution. I wouldn't do that now...

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    Re: Laser Jammers and Radar Detectors! What do YOU use?

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigjimsho
    However, for being useless against laser, I highly disagree.
    Just to clarify Jim, what I said was "Laser detection is pretty much useless unless you happen to have a car in front of you that the laser bounces off of.". What you said was exactly my point, the laser bounced off another reflective surface and your V1 picked it up. Without that reflective surface, you would not stand a chance. It would be too late once the detector went off. NY may be mostly Ka but one hit me with laser on Thursday. I was only doing 70.

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    I haven't tried jammers yet, but it sounds like they are about as sophisticated as the equipment I used in the USAF 45 years ago. I would be worried about radar noise jammers fairly close to the engine computers. Again, common sense is the best defense, in conjunction with a good detector. Laser detection absolutely relies on scatter, and if you're not close enough to a car ahead of you that is being targeted, you're toast. Much the same with radar; if you're not behind a car a few miles ahead that gets targeted, instant on radar will get a reading unless you do a panic deceleration, in which case you will probably get a ticket for reckless driving or get rear-ended if you're in traffic.

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    I have a question. I assume that police cars of all types these days have some sort of GPS transponder installed so that their location can be known at all times. If I am correct, does the technology exist to tap into this and know where they are whether or not they are using radar or laser? Wouldn't this be much more effective?

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    Re: Laser Jammers and Radar Detectors! What do YOU use?

    Probably be awesome but the GPS the police uses is probably not open to track by the public. At least that would be my guess. Think about it, crooks could see where the cops were and then target other areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike02z
    Probably be awesome but the GPS the police uses is probably not open to track by the public. At least that would be my guess. Think about it, crooks could see where the cops were and then target other areas.
    They could do that now with a good scanner. All they would need is to know they are in the general area. I agree with you however, if this technology did exist, someone would have figured how to use it for speeding ticket avoidance by now.

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    Re: Laser Jammers and Radar Detectors! What do YOU use?

    Ok, for good honest, down to earth unbiased opinions, here is a great forum:

    http://www.radardetectorforum.org/forum.php

    No radar detector can be all thigns to all people, but it is pretty well accepted that the Beltronics STiR Plus is the current king of the hill. This is a custom-installed unit as opposed to a windshiled mount version. The performance and features are pretty much second to none. I will admit that I do own this unit, but did tons of research before buying it as I knew I wanted the best, so I am not just saying this because I own it. It is basically an updqated 9500ci, but unlike that, it doesn't come with laser jammers - they are an optional add-on. This is a good thing, becasue when it comes to jammers, the "Belscort" products (ie. Betronics / Escort -same Company) are not the best available.

    I also run a V1 (ver 1.85 3.893) which as discussed, is one of the best windshield mount units available. The Escort Redline has a bit better range than the V1, but the V1 is much more responsive to instant on / quick trigger type shots, that the "sleepy" redline can miss. When I hit the highways, I run the V1 along with my STiR PLus, and the two of them together compliment each other nicely and are a formidable combination. The rear antenna and arrows of the V1 are HUGE benefits. The V1 can be chatty in the city, but you can turn of X and K band (if not used in your area) which makes it nice and quiet - until it needs to be.

    As far as laser goes, both the STiR Plus and the V1 detect laser, although I have laser turned off on my STiR Plus. The V1 is VERY sensistive to laser, but generally speaking, if you get a laser alert, you probably already have a ticket. Some detectors may alert to scatter from a shot on another vehicle, but if you want real protection from laser, you need jammers. The best jammers on the market are Laser Interceptors (and yes, I have these too). Numerous independent tests have proven this. However, Blinder has a new model, the 905, which has performed very well in tests. It is a relatively new model, so they are constantly upgrading their firmware.


    Here's a video showing how freaky good the V1 is at detecting laser:



    Here's a video from this summer of my STiR Plus and my V1 detecting a brief, instant on Ka shot from approx 4.5 miles away (you have to listen close, but they both alert at the exact same time at about the 9 second mark), and then showing how the rear antenna of the V1 picked up the rear instant on shot the cop took at me as I drove under an overpass, and the arrows told me exactly where to look. As you can see, the STiR Plus (without a rear antenna) detected the reflected radr signal, but it took 6 seconds to alert and even at that, it was only a very weak alert.



    Trust me on this...if you're going to buy something, spend the money and get the best you can afford (but do your homework) the last thing you want with this stuff is a false sense of security

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    Re: Laser Jammers and Radar Detectors! What do YOU use?

    I am using a Bel GX65 coupled with a laser shifter. I like the GPS for blocking out various K band store security systems. The shifter works well for me. Someone stated about shutting off the system afte it goes off. The shifter shuts down automatically after about 5 seconds. I am happy with both because they work for me in many different situations. Just my thoughts.

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