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2009-2014 Cadillac CTS-V General Discussion Discussion, trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices. in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2009-2014; Originally Posted by Karch I don't know you, dennych, obviously, but if you are concerned about 12 mpg in the ...
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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karch View Post
    I don't know you, dennych, obviously, but if you are concerned about 12 mpg in the city, then you are either an environmentalist (I doubt it), or considering the cost of owning and driving the car, which is understandable. Unless you are stuck in this mess here on the Westside, I think you can get better than 12 in the city. Heck, I get a bit better than that in my Trailblazer SS, with a 6L, 4.10 gears, 4800#, and a 3200 stall.

    From my own perspective, the maintenance and repair on the V has got to be less, probably far less, then the GT-R, especially over time.

    How much would it cost to rebuild the trans in a V, compared to a GT-R? What about brakes? What if the engine were to let go? Then, consider how many LS engines are out there, and people are learning more and more about them.

    I would think they are quite different cars, driving and personality. The GT-R is a sports coupe, no question, and it looks it, and you are not going to get away from that.

    The V can be a sports (coupe/sedan/wagon), or it can take the role of a very nice riding (coupe/sedan/wagon).

    I had G35 sedans (two of them), and they were very nice daily drivers, but they did not convey the same passion as the V when driving, let alone knowing that you have a relatively unique car.

    Since you live near me, how many V's do you see in a day? Can I venture to guess you see more Ferrari's than V's? How about G37's? Now, the GT-R is not very common, that I will give you, and I bet they are a blast around a road course, but a modded V, which doesn't cost that much to mod, is really something.


    For me, I test drove one a few years ago, and can't get it out of my head. Since I don't make a ton of cash, and have a hefty mortgage, and two young boys, I had to wait until the right used one came around, and that I was ready. I had a co-worker test drive the one I am interested in yesterday, and do once-over, and he told me of a couple of minor things, and that it really moves. I told the owner I will buy it, and we are trying to get the paperwork done.

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    I have honestly vowed never to buy another FWD vehicle, if I can possibly avoid it. I will go AWD, but not FWD.
    Thanks for the insight. I test drove it a few years ago as well at the Fontana V-labs event. It was a blast (I guess the event worked). MPG for me is mainly a future concern. Gas now isn't at the point where it would matter a whole lot to me now. However if gas were to rise in price exponentially in the future that would be my concern.

    but yeah, I think I mentioned in the other thread, I've only seen 1 CTS-V Sedan in the wild here and 0 CTS-V Wagons. Way more GT-R's and Ferraris/Lambos

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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    Quote Originally Posted by dennych View Post
    Thanks for the insight. I test drove it a few years ago as well at the Fontana V-labs event. It was a blast (I guess the event worked). MPG for me is mainly a future concern. Gas now isn't at the point where it would matter a whole lot to me now. However if gas were to rise in price exponentially in the future that would be my concern.

    but yeah, I think I mentioned in the other thread, I've only seen 1 CTS-V Sedan in the wild here and 0 CTS-V Wagons. Way more GT-R's and Ferraris/Lambos
    You need to get out more I've been seeing one almost daily driving to w/b on Sunset around 7:15AM (sedan). And there's a red wagon and a black wagon around these parts.

    Not that it's for this thread, or forum, but I think the gas price issue has more to do with refinery capacity than oil availability, but you don't hear that on the news. The spikes here in CA these last two months were caused by:

    1) Chevron Richmond fire, taking the refinery mostly off-line, affecting state supply of summer blend
    2) XOM (ExxonMobil) Torrance power failure took that 160K bbd (barrels per day) off-line for about a week
    3) Local pipeline failure, reducing oil supply coming from the oil fields in the central valley, though I am not sure how much oil is coming through, or comes through.

    The operating refineries are making money right now, in heaps, and this is not always the case (when oil rises, their profits go down, when oil price drops, they profit on the drop, then level off). One large one is running 10K-15K over capacity, balls to the walls, making about $50/barrel. Another one had a planned shutdown coming in a few months that has been delayed, due to the profitability right now (I don't blame them).

    I've been inside of all the local refineries. It's really impressive, the amount of equipment, expertise, and consider the heat in their, and the fluids and vapors around. Very impressive, and can be quite intimidating.

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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karch View Post
    You need to get out more I've been seeing one almost daily driving to w/b on Sunset around 7:15AM (sedan). And there's a red wagon and a black wagon around these parts.

    Not that it's for this thread, or forum, but I think the gas price issue has more to do with refinery capacity than oil availability, but you don't hear that on the news. The spikes here in CA these last two months were caused by:

    1) Chevron Richmond fire, taking the refinery mostly off-line, affecting state supply of summer blend
    2) XOM (ExxonMobil) Torrance power failure took that 160K bbd (barrels per day) off-line for about a week
    3) Local pipeline failure, reducing oil supply coming from the oil fields in the central valley, though I am not sure how much oil is coming through, or comes through.

    The operating refineries are making money right now, in heaps, and this is not always the case (when oil rises, their profits go down, when oil price drops, they profit on the drop, then level off). One large one is running 10K-15K over capacity, balls to the walls, making about $50/barrel. Another one had a planned shutdown coming in a few months that has been delayed, due to the profitability right now (I don't blame them).

    I've been inside of all the local refineries. It's really impressive, the amount of equipment, expertise, and consider the heat in their, and the fluids and vapors around. Very impressive, and can be quite intimidating.
    Yeah I actually live pretty close to that Torrance refinery . I was mainly referring to further down the road even like maybe 5-10 years. I know the short term spikes are due to refinery issues so not too worried about the short term. Even if I use this as my commuting vehicle to work, I only put on like 300 miles a month about.

    Living in the southbay is probably the reason. I remember seeing lambos every say in westwood when I lived there. only lux cars I usually see are the Gt-R, r8, and Bentley continental GT in my complex.

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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    Quote Originally Posted by dennych View Post
    Thanks for the insight. I test drove it a few years ago as well at the Fontana V-labs event. It was a blast (I guess the event worked). MPG for me is mainly a future concern. Gas now isn't at the point where it would matter a whole lot to me now. However if gas were to rise in price exponentially in the future that would be my concern.

    but yeah, I think I mentioned in the other thread, I've only seen 1 CTS-V Sedan in the wild here and 0 CTS-V Wagons. Way more GT-R's and Ferraris/Lambos
    If gas prices rise exponentially, we will start to see some great bargains on high fuel consumption cars...which would be a good thing.

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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    Quote Originally Posted by MacBuster View Post
    If gas prices rise exponentially, we will start to see some great bargains on high fuel consumption cars...which would be a good thing.
    haha indeed. Which makes me question if it's smart to buy it now. But all this is irrelevant really as I wouldn't mind the car now to use

    So I got back with the sales manager for the Florida dealership I was in talks with before they rudely insulted me. He gave me a story how the sales person I was dealing with said I demanded new tires or some BS when all I did was ask for the tread. My guess is someone offered more before I signed.

    I basically negotiated this one down to 52k
    http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...31158897&Log=0

    2011, 11k, CPO, questionable looking tires on the rear.

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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    Quote Originally Posted by dennych View Post
    ...
    I basically negotiated this one down to 52k
    http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...31158897&Log=0

    2011, 11k, CPO, questionable looking tires on the rear.
    Linky no worky

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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karch View Post
    Linky no worky
    http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...31158897&Log=0

    Fixed, forgot the ?

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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    Well, looks like I have a verbal agreement with a seller
    we basically negotiated 59k for a 2012 Vagon.

    I guess I'll be the first Asian I've seen in LA driving a modern Cadillac D:

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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    ^^^^^^
    Oh god not that video again! (dennych, it's not you, it's that the video has been posted, literally, 100's of times in the last four years in this forum. V forum regulars like me have come to puke with every posting.)

    And congrats, dennych! As Xaqtly keeps saying in my wagon threads, "one of us. one of us." ROFL.

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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    Quote Originally Posted by neuronbob View Post
    ^^^^^^
    Oh god not that video again! (dennych, it's not you, it's that the video has been posted, literally, 100's of times in the last four years in this forum. V forum regulars like me have come to puke with every posting.)

    And congrats, dennych! As Xaqtly keeps saying in my wagon threads, "one of us. one of us." ROFL.
    haha, it was the only thing I could find about Chinese people and Cadillacs

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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    Any recent updates on auction prices?

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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    Can anyone elaborate on the auction price of:
    1G6DV8EP5C0137319

    Thank you.

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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karch View Post
    Can anyone elaborate on the auction price of:
    1G6DV8EP5C0137319

    Thank you.
    I need more specifics.

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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    Quote Originally Posted by MacBuster View Post
    I need more specifics.
    Sorry...
    2012 Thunder Gray CTS-V Wagon, sold around 10/29/12 at an auto auction in Ohio. I believe it has an A6 and Recaros. Originally titled 1/31/12.

    Here is the Carfax I found:
    http://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory...ps0wysF92k5Hs3

    Thank you.

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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    2012 , BASE, AUTO, 4DR WAGON, 6.2L V8

    VIN Odometer Color Location Sale Type Sale Date Purchase
    Price (USD) View Announcements
    1G6DV8EP1C 10,988 M GRAY ADESA Indianapolis GM Factory Sale 09/26/2012 $50,900 View Announcements
    1G6DV8EP3C 7,465 M RED ADESA Los Angeles GM Factory Sale 10/25/2012 $53,250 View Announcements
    1G6DV8EP6C 69 M RED ADESA Indianapolis GM Factory Sale 10/10/2012 $55,000 View Announcements
    1G6DV8EP8C 3,440 M GRAY ADESA Minneapolis Consignment Sale 09/18/2012 $45,000 View Announcements
    1G6DV8EP9C 32 M RED ADESA Los Angeles GM Factory Sale 08/16/2012 $58,000 View Announcements
    1G6DV8EP9C 9,829 M GRAY ADESA Atlanta GM Factory Sale 08/15/2012 $54,000 View Announcements

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