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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    double post.

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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    It may have gone through a non-Manheim auction.
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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    Quote Originally Posted by 96Fleetwood View Post
    It may have gone through a non-Manheim auction.
    I'm pretty sure it went through Adesa. I actually have an Adesa login, but I can't figure out how to review auctions that are older than about 40 days. Anybody an expert on Adesa reports?

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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    Quote Originally Posted by 96Fleetwood View Post
    That is what I did for my GS350 and my wife's X5... I saw how much they paid at the auction and gave them $1K over. I was forward with them on both deals and told them the info I had and what I was willing to pay.. made it short and sweet.

    If I can get a wagon for ~$40-42K next spring, the GS350 will go bye bye...
    Found it in the auction. Had to monkey with the Adesa database a bit to search back in May, but got it. I'm going to offer them $750 over auction price, since it's a buyback with a lemon title.

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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    Nice find! Goodluck! Keep us posted.
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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    They seem to not want to move from $3,500 over the auction price.

    /shrug

    Nice having a car that works well for me. Waiting out car dealers is on of my favorite things to do. I'm sure a lot of dealers would jump at less than a $3,500 gross....especially on a car that has a lemon title.

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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    Quote Originally Posted by MacBuster View Post
    They seem to not want to move from $3,500 over the auction price.

    /shrug

    Nice having a car that works well for me. Waiting out car dealers is on of my favorite things to do. I'm sure a lot of dealers would jump at less than a $3,500 gross....especially on a car that has a lemon title.
    They have great deals on the ally smart lease for 2012 models right now. I am tempted, but would rather buy a slightly used one in a few months.
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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    Quote Originally Posted by 96Fleetwood View Post
    They have great deals on the ally smart lease for 2012 models right now. I am tempted, but would rather buy a slightly used one in a few months.
    Probably a good plan. Lease or not, it's clear to me that these things get killed by depreciation.

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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    Quote Originally Posted by 96Fleetwood View Post
    This is all that shows up for recent 2011 and 2012 V wagons:

    Vehicle Identification
    Search: Select Country: US
    Year: 2011 Select Region: National
    Make: CADILLAC Seasonal Adjustment: No
    Model: CTS-V
    Style: 4D WAGON
    Transactions
    Date Auction Sale Type Price Odometer Cond Color Eng Trans In Sample
    04/13/12 PHOENIX Regular $52,900 8,123 Above Red 8CY A Yes
    06/07/12 NEVADA Regular $50,750 12,311 Avg WHITE 8G A Yes
    07/16/12 DTNA BCH Regular $54,500 9,505 Above Red NON A No
    07/19/12 DETROIT $48,700 3,427 Avg RED 8G A Yes
    07/19/12 DETROIT $48,500 1,506 Avg GRAY 8G A Yes
    07/19/12 DETROIT $48,300 212 Avg RED 8G A Yes




    Vehicle Identification
    Search: Select Country: US
    Year: 2012 Select Region: National
    Make: CADILLAC Seasonal Adjustment: No
    Model: CTS-V
    Style: 4D WAGON
    Transactions
    Date Auction Sale Type Price Odometer Cond Color Eng Trans In Sample
    02/16/12 DETROIT $63,500 7 Avg BLACK 8G A No
    03/15/12 DETROIT $59,000 9,035 Avg WHITE 8G A No
    04/25/12 DALLAS Regular $60,750 626 Avg BLUE 8G A No
    06/29/12 PA Regular $58,800 7,486 Avg BLACK 8G 6 No


    I wonder why GM manufacturer vehicles sell for so much less. Do the dealers assume they have been abused? They certainly don't try to pass the savings on to customers.

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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    All three of those 2011's have been in service for almost 2 years.

    Waht the heck does GM do with cars that only get 200 miles in 2 years?

    Car shows? Training? Press vehicles?

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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    Quote Originally Posted by MacBuster View Post
    All three of those 2011's have been in service for almost 2 years.

    Waht the heck does GM do with cars that only get 200 miles in 2 years?

    Car shows? Training? Press vehicles?
    Live their life a quarter mile at a time?
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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    My Father bought a 2009 Corvette Convertible Indy 500 parade car back in 2010. It had a few hundred miles on it as well. It sat in a warehouse in Indianapolis until GM took it to auction where he bought it.

    I bet you the used 2011 wagon prices will go to the low 40s once winter arrives.
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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    Quote Originally Posted by 96Fleetwood View Post
    My Father bought a 2009 Corvette Convertible Indy 500 parade car back in 2010. It had a few hundred miles on it as well. It sat in a warehouse in Indianapolis until GM took it to auction where he bought it.

    I bet you the used 2011 wagon prices will go to the low 40s once winter arrives.
    I agree. I'm far less eager to buy one now, than I was even a few weeks ago. With winter nearly here, it seems pointless to egt the car and slap some winters on it right away. I will probably wait to January.

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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    Grossinger Cadillac near me still has five 2012 V Wagons on their lot. That will bring used prices down
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    Re: trying to get a fix on 2011 CTS-V wagon prices.

    Quote Originally Posted by 96Fleetwood View Post
    Grossinger Cadillac near me still has five 2012 V Wagons on their lot. That will bring used prices down
    Yikes...so they do!

    Many of the dealers are charging 60+ for used 2012s. Good luck with that, guys.

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