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2009-2014 Cadillac CTS-V General Discussion Discussion, Why doesn't GM upgrade the crappy sound system in the 70k CTS-V? in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2009-2014; Originally Posted by 94danstang I realize the head unit can't be replaced, but what about maybe just swapping the speakers? ...
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    Re: Why doesn't GM upgrade the crappy sound system in the 70k CTS-V?

    Quote Originally Posted by 94danstang View Post
    I realize the head unit can't be replaced, but what about maybe just swapping the speakers? Is there any value in that?
    That's tough as most Bose systems use special 1 Ohm amps and speakers and bypassing them can be a challenge. You really need to tap the outputs of the factory head unit (wherever that is in the V) and wire new amps and speakers.

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    Re: Why doesn't GM upgrade the crappy sound system in the 70k CTS-V?

    Quote Originally Posted by SRTVIPER03 View Post
    I also agree.....the Kicker sound system in my Challenger puts the V's to shame!
    Ugh! Really? I've got a 300C SRT8 with that Kicker system and it's rubbish compared to the Bose in my 2012 V. Do you have one of the newer Challengers? I hope so, because my older SRT8's Kicker system was horrible.

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    I have to agree with other posters here - there are MANY things to upgrade ahead of the stereo. The plastic POS "Piano Black" trim is awful. My car has 300 miles on it and the trim is showing scratching already. Any reasonably intelligent person should know not to use soft plastic for something that is in the direct path of a lot of contact such as the center console. The supercharge isolator has also been a sore spot for many. How about 10" rear wheels so we can accommodate a wider variety of tires? What about a front parking camera so we don't bash up our low front ends? What about more forged internals in the engine for those of us who want to mod?


    I've heard many complaints about rattles, fit, and finish - we'd love to see some higher quality materials used in addition to better fasteners and joining work among the parts.

    Who's up for a better auto trans? Maybe a nice wet dual clutch design like the 7 speed in the AMG cars? That would potentially do a lot for both performance AND economy.

    In the end, I could agree that they could have gone with a much better sound system, and probably even negotiated a reasonable price for one of the top makes like you find in MB, BMW, Audi, or others. But in the long list of things I would improve, this isn't close to the top for me.

    But since we are focusing on the stereo itself, I'll give it 7 out of 10, which is good enough for me. If I were going to insist on changing something about it - how about making it easier to swap out as some have noted? That would give a price break to those of us who are OK with it as-is, but also leave options for those who don't like it to upgrade...

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    Re: Why doesn't GM upgrade the crappy sound system in the 70k CTS-V?

    I can't say I'm in love with the V2's Bose compared to the Bose system in the 12 year old avant.. there's not enough bass and it sounds much more hollow(and half of the avant's speakers are blown..), the fact that I can't even adjust EQ settings because of their propritary 'we know better than you' BS annoyed me as well. That said, it's also not the worst system, and certinally not bad enough to think about replacing anytime soon, clarity is at least decent, and there's little distortion as it approaches full volume. I really don't find myself basting the stereo as much as I did in the Auto V2.. The tremec V2's exhaust note is MUCH more impressive and noticeable.

    as per other posters, I'd rather pick something else to 'upgrade' than the stereo first.

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    Re: Why doesn't GM upgrade the crappy sound system in the 70k CTS-V?

    Sounds OK to me the little I use it . The drivetrain noise is much more intoxicating .

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    There are many options that exist today for those wanting to upgrade the speakers and amps with OEM integration with the stock HU... JBL MS8, JL Audio Clean Sweep and Audio Control DQL-8 come to mind off the top of my head...

    The Bose system in the CTS-V is ok and far from horrible... Personally, I'm looking to put my CTS-V on a diet so the likelihood of me adding weight for audio is pretty slim... I'm a bit spoiled though, I just sit in my expert world champion SQ car when I'm in the mood for some serious listening

    When I get some free time I'll take a look at what can be done for relatively minimal cost and install to improve on the Bose system and report back...

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    Re: Why doesn't GM upgrade the crappy sound system in the 70k CTS-V?

    Queston? Do you have the sub-woofer in your cars? I have a 2012 Vagon with the sub- woofer. R you kidding me. I have a 15 year old son after setting this thing up . Holy S*it!! My rear veiw mirror didn't stop bouncing around until i turned it down. My ears hurt. I listen to rock. How loud do you need it to be. This thing through an mp player is great. i'm glad i invested in hearing aids. I' m going to be rich in 10 years!!!

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    Re: Why doesn't GM upgrade the crappy sound system in the 70k CTS-V?

    Yes, we have the sub woofer. I personally don't question the ability of the system to shake my mirrors. I question the overall tonal quality of the system. Obviously this is very subjective, and is just my opinion, but I find that all Bose systems exaggerate the bass, boost the high end and have extremely muddy mid range. The Bose system is designed to give the illusion of a quality system. Many people in the audio industry will tell you that Bose is "Better Sound Through Marketing". All that said, I want to hear the exhaust and the supercharger whine. The audio system is not something I would change, as it does not appear simple. My major complaint is the lack of BT audio and the horrible speech system.

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    Re: Why doesn't GM upgrade the crappy sound system in the 70k CTS-V?

    Another that's not a big fan of the bose. This is my third. Had a 2001 Tahoe, a 2008 Yukon Denali and my 11 V. Each got progressively worse/harder to modify. All were totally lame when compared to what you pay for the option. To me, it sounds great when you are test driving but after a week or two driving you realize it blows I agree with much of what Mike02z said. To tinny up high, too muddy everywhere else. The bass will thump a bit but it has no punch or definition. They had a SIX INCH sub in my Yukon Denali! Sorry but you are NEVER going to get decent bass out of a 6" sub. Plus bose reduces the bass as you turn up the volume so they don't blow the tiny cheap speakers they use. You would laugh if you ever saw what they use for door speakers. I put Infinity Kappas in my Yukon and they EASILY weighed twice what the bose weighed plus the bose were cheap paper cones On the first two vehicles I ended up replacing everything but the nav head unit and the bose amp. Had to keep the amp because all of the audio controls were done in the bose amp not the head unit so I couldn't tap off the head unit.

    Getting back to the V, I actually have a 10" sub and amp waiting to get motivated to try to install. I was thinking about dynamat for the trunk but I really don't want to add the weight. Replacing other stuff becomes much more difficult and expensive. On a $70K car, the stereo should be a lot better IMO

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    Re: Why doesn't GM upgrade the crappy sound system in the 70k CTS-V?

    I don't give a crap about my radio; I wanna go fast, stop hard, and slalom well. You could have bought a $100.00 wheelchair and put a great aftermarket stereo in it.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by captain slow
    I think we would all agree that the sound system in the V isn't up to par for the price of the car. The V is an amazing car for the money but what should GM do to make the V's sound system on par with other luxury brands?
    No, we don't all agree; I like the Bose system. I listen to country and rock, but hate rap music, so might not have enough Bass for some.

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    Re: Why doesn't GM upgrade the crappy sound system in the 70k CTS-V?

    Quote Originally Posted by nsaness View Post
    I don't give a crap about my radio; I wanna go fast, stop hard, and slalom well. You could have bought a $100.00 wheelchair and put a great aftermarket stereo in it.....
    Not trying to bust your balls. But this was just a stereo post. Sure your just poking fun. I can gurantee that if I wanted to go fast, stop hard, and slalom well, a 2 or 4 door Cadillac would not make my top 10 list. This is a great car. Great price. Great perfromance. But it is a Cadillac and trying to compete with BMW, Mercedes, etc. It has gained alot of ground. Definatly a better track car than most in it's class. But thats not the whole package. Not trying to be a V bashor. But it's not the greatest car on the market. Bang for the buck? Yea unbeatable. I would pay $80,000.00, in up grades if they were available, or maybe more for one with better stereo, seats (yes I have the Reccaro's) fit n finish. At the end of the day this is a Cadillac. Does Cadillac want to be known for best bang for the buck or an all around American car that has placed itself shoulder to shoulder with the foreign competition?
    Oh yea this is a stereo post! lol

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    Re: Why doesn't GM upgrade the crappy sound system in the 70k CTS-V?

    What is it that they say...

    No Highs
    No Lows
    Must be Bose

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    Re: Why doesn't GM upgrade the crappy sound system in the 70k CTS-V?

    I really don't think its all that bad. Set it up right and it's more than good enough. Only better sounding stock systems I have heard are the Mark Levinson Lexus LS460, and B&O in an S8. Both of those options cost several thousand dollars ( almost over 2K for Lexus and 6K in the S8!!!). GM put the money into the performance of this car, yet still compared it's AMG and M competition(IE C63 or M3) the stereo is waaay better than both those. Frankly most people buying V's could give less than 2 shits. In fact I didn;t even turn the radio on when I bought mine!
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    Re: Why doesn't GM upgrade the crappy sound system in the 70k CTS-V?

    Hi SoonerSpeedFreak, no offense taken. I am sorry for taking the radio bashing off topic. I should have just said, "I like my CTS-V radio and I am totally staisfied with it." Honestly, I've never put an aftermarket stereo in any car I have ever owned. I am old, and I can't just don't understand why anyone would make the radio priority in a performance car.
    I commute over 120 miles a day (6 days a week) in my V, and all I have ever wished for was a little more power, and a little more brake.
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    Re: Why doesn't GM upgrade the crappy sound system in the 70k CTS-V?

    Yeah, you have to play around with the configuration settings to get the best sound. I went from "normal" to "centerpoint" and get better sound quality. I would rather have the trick suspension than the best car stereo. I'm sure some hard choices had to be made by the engineers to maintain this price level, and performance should trump entertainment in the "V."

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