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2009-2014 Cadillac CTS-V General Discussion Discussion, VERY UNHAPPY with W4M ported supercharger, snout, TB and 2.55 upper in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2009-2014; This is not a bashing thread. So please don't make it out to be one. But I am disappointed. So, ...
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    VERY UNHAPPY with W4M ported supercharger, snout, TB and 2.55 upper

    This is not a bashing thread. So please don't make it out to be one. But I am disappointed.

    So, I received the ported pieces via UPS on Monday and waited all week to install my additional "100 HP" mod. Everything looked good when received and the solid isolator that was installed took out all the shaft rattle (knew this by spinning the supercharger pulley).
    I took everything apart today and transferred all sensors, injectors etc to the new blower. Installed the new blower by following Lingenfelter's step by step instructions. They have a nice write up with torque specs and everything.
    Got everything reinstalled and attached and started the car up. Sounded great and decided to take it for a test drive just to make sure everything was good (without getting on it until properly tuned). I had no more driven 50 yards when I heard the worst belt screeching noise ever. I immediately turned around and pulled back into my garage and shut the car down. Popped the hood and smoke was coming out the front grill (not good). When I opened the hood, the supercharger pulley had turned grey and it was smoking... hmmmmmm. I tried to start the car again and it would not start. Seemed like something was dragging it down. I decided to remove the supercharger belt and test the outcome. The car started right up so I knew everything was installed properly etc (as the charger base and snout came assembled). I shut the car down and then tried to rotate the supercharger pulley. IT won't turn. It is seized.... UNBELIEVABLE!!!! The screeching noise was the belt being pulled across that pulley and it not spinning... also the reason I saw some melted belt on other parts of the motor.
    So now I have a car that has a non-rotating supercharger on it. HORRIBLE!!! Car runs fine without the supercharger belt installed. There's a nice wasted day and money.
    Tried calling Jesse but of course it is Saturday and the day before Easter so I knew that was a shot in the dark.

    Anyone??? Jesse???

    I've always been a big fan of his stuff and supported him, but this is very disappointing.

    Mark
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    Re: VERY UNHAPPY with W4M ported supercharger, snout, TB and 2.55 upper

    So is the snout or the supercharger causing it not to turn? Have you taken it apart to find the problem yet?
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    Re: VERY UNHAPPY with W4M ported supercharger, snout, TB and 2.55 upper

    Wow!
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    Re: VERY UNHAPPY with W4M ported supercharger, snout, TB and 2.55 upper

    Why are these types of threads getting more and more frequent??? I am starting to wonder. I have not seen posts about other catastrophic events through other people.
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    Re: VERY UNHAPPY with W4M ported supercharger, snout, TB and 2.55 upper

    Quote Originally Posted by Cub Cadet View Post
    Why are these types of threads getting more and more frequent??? I am starting to wonder. I have not seen posts about other catastrophic events through other people.
    are they really "more and more frequent"? Also, without any dignosis at all, should this be considered truly a catastropic event?
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    Re: VERY UNHAPPY with W4M ported supercharger, snout, TB and 2.55 upper

    I hope to have a chance to pull it apart tomorrow, but being Easter that may be tough. Have some family stuff to do :-)
    And let me say, the car falls on its face after 2000 RPM, but I'm thinking it's the tune as it is expecting a lot more air flow so there is too much fuel and it's just bogging down. And I'm referring to just normal driving when I drove up to the grocery store.
    I wouldn't call this catastrophic at this point. Worst case I put my stock blower back on and get my $$ back and think about doing the lower instead. I've got my fingers crossed that when the appropriate parties see this thread it gets handled timely and effectively.

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    Re: VERY UNHAPPY with W4M ported supercharger, snout, TB and 2.55 upper

    It's the tune.

    Seriously though, did you switch out the entire blower or just the snout? You are going to make any power with the belt off and the rotors sitting there so don't bother trying. It's no the tune. It's a stationary rotor pack on a motor that may make 385-400 HP if the rotors weren't blocking the airflow.

    Take it apart and try to spin the shaft will seeing what is preventing it from rotating.
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    It sounds like the blower ingested something--the tolerances are so tight, tissue paper will jam it up. If the rotors can't be reversed, they'll probably have to come out--160 degrees of twist is a long way to go...
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    Re: VERY UNHAPPY with W4M ported supercharger, snout, TB and 2.55 upper

    You said this ISN'T a bashing thread???????????? It most certainly is. Go complain to the person that did the work, like a normal person would. If you don't like his work, GO TO SOMEONE ELSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Real simple, isn't it? You can always file a BBB complaint too, right? The internet is NOT the place to complain. What if you messed up the install? How do you retract this then????????
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    Re: VERY UNHAPPY with W4M ported supercharger, snout, TB and 2.55 upper

    Did you put oil in the new blower?
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    Re: VERY UNHAPPY with W4M ported supercharger, snout, TB and 2.55 upper

    Quote Originally Posted by baabootoo View Post
    ... How do you retract this then????????
    You come along with a subsequent post and say what happened. Most people tend to follow an entire thread and typically don't read the first post and move on.

    This notion that you can't complain about something you spent a couple grand on is ridiculous. He stated facts; got new parts, installed new parts, new parts go boom. He didn't bash anyone, or say the stuff is junk and demand his money back. Personally, as a consumer I want to know the good AND the bad and how problems are resolved. Knowing both allows people to make the most informed decision possible when spending their hard earned money.

    These aren't his first posts on the forum, which would call the thread into question, he's relating his experience and I (and I'm sure others) appreciate reading about it. Based on things I've read so far about wait4me, he doesn't seem shady, etc and I'm sure he'll handle it, but there's no reason someone can't vent.
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    Re: VERY UNHAPPY with W4M ported supercharger, snout, TB and 2.55 upper

    Quote Originally Posted by n0s4atu View Post
    You come along with a subsequent post and say what happened. Most people tend to follow an entire thread and typically don't read the first post and move on.

    This notion that you can't complain about something you spent a couple grand on is ridiculous. He stated facts; got new parts, installed new parts, new parts go boom. He didn't bash anyone, or say the stuff is junk and demand his money back. Personally, as a consumer I want to know the good AND the bad and how problems are resolved. Knowing both allows people to make the most informed decision possible when spending their hard earned money.

    These aren't his first posts on the forum, which would call the thread into question, he's relating his experience and I (and I'm sure others) appreciate reading about it. Based on things I've read so far about wait4me, he doesn't seem shady, etc and I'm sure he'll handle it, but there's no reason someone can't vent.
    100% agreed. Posts like this are good; We need to know the good and the bad as these things are worked out. There's no judgement in the post, only facts. I'm very interested to see what the issue is and how it's resolved, as I'm sure are many other people that plan on modifying our cars.
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    Re: VERY UNHAPPY with W4M ported supercharger, snout, TB and 2.55 upper

    Any chance its the isolator? If the blower worked fine before it and the snout should have spun freely, between the two is the solid isolator such that when installing it, it didn't slide all the way in and now has bound the snout and blower from spinning? I know in the past there were tolerancing issues on those.
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    Re: VERY UNHAPPY with W4M ported supercharger, snout, TB and 2.55 upper

    Quote Originally Posted by TimmyC View Post
    Did you put oil in the new blower?
    That is a possibility, as well as the blower ingesting something and locking it up.
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    Re: VERY UNHAPPY with W4M ported supercharger, snout, TB and 2.55 upper

    I would pull it apart and check everything. I really don't see any of the parts being bad. I just got Jesse's 10" lower with bracket and its nice stuff that fit great. It was lacking instructions but hell I'm a guy I most likely won’t have read them anyways.....Make sure you look for marks on the rotors. Maybe the isolator was installed a little off? I know mine went in wrong and had to make sure it was straight. Good luck hope it all works out for you...
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