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2009-2014 Cadillac CTS-V General Discussion Discussion, Looking for advice on best way to launch car on drag strip vs. on street. in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2009-2014; On stock tires for now, wondering if there is a specific RPM people are loking for when launching on the ...
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    Looking for advice on best way to launch car on drag strip vs. on street.

    On stock tires for now, wondering if there is a specific RPM people are loking for when launching on the track, vs. on the street. I have the street part mostly figured out, but know that on a well prepared track the traction will be better and should help hold more power as you pull away from the starting line.

    This is with a approx 620 WHp car. I know that soft compound tires are the fix, but waiting on M/T to come out with the 19" in mid May, so for now thought I would make a few passes on the stock tires to get the hang of the car and see what it mph's. Not really looking for a Max effort Low ET with this car, but want to get close to what others have achieved.

    Thanks for any advice from anybody with experience with similar power levels.

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    Re: Looking for advice on best way to launch car on drag strip vs. on street.

    25 PSI, launch at idle, TC off, roll out so the tires are just grabbing. Do not get overzealous with the right pedal. A little squeal is fine but you need to maintain a calm foot and come out easy to go fast.

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    Re: Looking for advice on best way to launch car on drag strip vs. on street.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Pittman View Post
    On stock tires for now, wondering if there is a specific RPM people are loking for when launching on the track, vs. on the street. I have the street part mostly figured out, but know that on a well prepared track the traction will be better and should help hold more power as you pull away from the starting line.

    This is with a approx 620 WHp car. I know that soft compound tires are the fix, but waiting on M/T to come out with the 19" in mid May, so for now thought I would make a few passes on the stock tires to get the hang of the car and see what it mph's. Not really looking for a Max effort Low ET with this car, but want to get close to what others have achieved.

    Thanks for any advice from anybody with experience with similar power levels.
    Hey what mods do you have to make 620 RWH?

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    Re: Looking for advice on best way to launch car on drag strip vs. on street.

    Similar to yours but only a 9.5"lower and no spacer, all stock exhaust. Add ported blower and heads, and small cam and 1.85 rockers, and tune up by Jesse. Very nice package, idles, drives, and looks like. stock, but runs very well when you hit the throttle.

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    Re: Looking for advice on best way to launch car on drag strip vs. on street.

    Have you tried it yet with all the controls on? You might be surpised how well this works.

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    Re: Looking for advice on best way to launch car on drag strip vs. on street.

    Quote Originally Posted by baabootoo View Post
    Have you tried it yet with all the controls on? You might be surpised how well this works.
    Yes, it does work well, but not very fast. My best quarter mile pass with the controls on and street tires was .43 seconds slower than a traction control off run on drag radials.

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    Re: Looking for advice on best way to launch car on drag strip vs. on street.

    So controls "on" with street tires vs controls "off" with drag radials means traction control isn't as fast? Hmmm. Track prep makes all the difference. I sucked at right pedal control, went 13 something @ 113. Totally bummed( at myself). Turned on TC went 11.93 @ 116. Just mashed it to the floor. Lol

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    Re: Looking for advice on best way to launch car on drag strip vs. on street.

    Dale,

    I pulled a 1.497 60 with stability control off and went off idle. You could also go off around 1,000 to 1,500 and see what your car likes.

    Surprised a man of your calibre is asking this.

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    Re: Looking for advice on best way to launch car on drag strip vs. on street.

    Quote Originally Posted by 6speeder View Post
    Yes, it does work well, but not very fast. My best quarter mile pass with the controls on and street tires was .43 seconds slower than a traction control off run on drag radials.
    that doesnt really compare... id give up .43 to street tires!

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    Re: Looking for advice on best way to launch car on drag strip vs. on street.

    Actually, it does compare. It shows how much power/for how long the traction control has to pull to get the power to the ground with street tires. The drag radial run was no drama, no spin what so ever, and they are pretty close to the street tires in weight/diameter. If I were to run the drag radials with traction control on I'd bet it'd be the same as traction control off. More importantly, it shows how much can be gained with traction Vs. traction control.

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    Re: Looking for advice on best way to launch car on drag strip vs. on street.

    Under certain conditions, the MT 305/35/18s will spin. I blew them off before.
    concorso and concorso like this.

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    Re: Looking for advice on best way to launch car on drag strip vs. on street.

    Quote Originally Posted by 6speeder View Post
    Actually, it does compare. It shows how much power/for how long the traction control has to pull to get the power to the ground with street tires. The drag radial run was no drama, no spin what so ever, and they are pretty close to the street tires in weight/diameter. If I were to run the drag radials with traction control on I'd bet it'd be the same as traction control off. More importantly, it shows how much can be gained with traction Vs. traction control.
    to me, the comparison i see and what you have further illustrated is that of DRs versus street tires.

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    Re: Looking for advice on best way to launch car on drag strip vs. on street.

    Curtis,
    Just looking for some info for a starting point. I was hoping to be able to hit the track and get a day of practice in the v before my regular racing schedule starts. The Q-8 / pro mod car is nearly ready and I hope to get a few Q-8 cars together and rent a track for a day of testing in the next few weeks, if it ever stops raining here in Ohio.

    Thanks to all for the good info and experiences with your v's. There is a lot of info in the replies so far. I will post my results in another week if the tracks around here open this week.





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    Dale,

    I pulled a 1.497 60 with stability control off and went off idle. You could also go off around 1,000 to 1,500 and see what your car likes.

    Surprised a man of your calibre is asking this.

    regards,

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    Re: Looking for advice on best way to launch car on drag strip vs. on street.

    Quote Originally Posted by e6t View Post
    to me, the comparison i see and what you have further illustrated is that of DRs versus street tires.
    Yes and no. A better way to look at it is that traction control doesn't give traction, it just limits power. It slows you down, a lot. When I launch correctly (and it's hard to do consistently), I can run quicker on street tires with traction control off then with it on, by at least .1 sec.

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