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    9500ci

    Already did a search and didn't find the answer I was looking for.Does anyone have a 9500ci installed in a v2? Pics comments worth it??? Just doing some homework before dropping that much $$$

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    Re: 9500ci

    I was considering a 9500ci, but went another route.

    After a lot of research, it is pretty obvious that the laser shifters (jammers) that come with the9500ci are pretty poor. The best laser jammer on the market is clearly the Laser Interceptor.

    So, as I wanted to know that I had peace of mind with respect to laser protection, there was no doubt - I purchased a Laser Interceptor (haven't installed it yet...the f'ing weather won't warm up!)

    I was also in the market for a new radar detector. I really liked the range (sensitivity) of the Escort Redline and the 9500ci (they use the same antenna), but also really wanted the anti-falsing technology and the GPS features that the 9500ci and the 9500ix offered. So, it appeared as though I would either have to accept somewhat less sensitivy and get the 9500ix, or buy the 9500ci and not use the included laser shifters, which essentially resulted in wasted money.

    Last Thursday, Beltronics (same company as Escort) released their STi-R Plus unit in North America, and I ordered one as soon as I could. Many expect this to be THE best radar detector on the market. It has the same antenna and sensitivy of the 9500ci / Redline, however it also includes all the anti-falsing technology and GPS features of the 9500ci / 9500 ix. However, it is about 400 bucks cheaper than the 9500ci, as it does not include the laser shifters (the Shifter ZR4 is an optional $450.00 add-on). In addition to the above, the STi-R Plus also has RDR (radar detector rejection) and KA band segmentation that the 9500ci does not, as well as stealth technology (it can't be detected by radar detector detectors), a big plus for those living in / driving through states or provinces where RDs are illegal. Also, the STi-R Plus has much better ramp-up than the Escorts...you get a much better progressive alert as the radar signal increases. One of the big knocks against Escort is their terrible ramp-up...basically you will be driving along and then WHAM! get a full alert = heart attack!

    It's your money, but for a tad more than the 9500ci, you can get a Laser Interceptor jammer AND an STi-R Plus, which will give you the best possible protection against laser speed traps, and arguably, the best radar detector available.

    The Laser Interceptor is around 600 bucks (a bit less), and the STi-R Plus is basically 1200. The 9500ci is 1600 bucks, so for around another 200 bucks, you can have much better protection than you wold with the 9500ci alone. The STi-R Plus is not shown on Beltronic's web page yet, but many of their authorized retailers have them listed. If you call Beltronic's customer service number, you can purchase directly through them .

    You will also need to consider installation fees. The install is pretty basic for both, so if you are at all handy and have ever installed a car stereo, this would be a piece of cake. The only trick is making sure the Laser Interceptor sensors are properly mounted (can't be behind a grill and must be in the proper location (not too low etc.) and square and level). This would also apply to the 9500ci shifters.

    Good luck!

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    Re: 9500ci

    When you get yours installed if you could post pics and install tips/shorts I would greatly appreciate it .I can definitely install myself and will shift my homework as suggested .

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    Re: 9500ci

    Quote Originally Posted by mowershop View Post
    When you get yours installed if you could post pics and install tips/shorts I would greatly appreciate it .I can definitely install myself and will shift my homework as suggested .
    Will do...if we EVER warm up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wannago View Post
    Will do...if we EVER warm up!
    I'm also considering an STi-R Plus now that it's finally available in NA. I consulted with an installer to come up with ideas on mounting points for the various pieces. I was wondering if you'd care to compare notes?

    Here's our line of thinking so far:

    -Detector behind upper grille, on bottom of grille opening below wreath and crest, dead center

    -GPS antenna on flat area of dash between defroster outlet and passenger-side speaker grille

    -Display inside center stack storage compartment

    -Speaker in outer corner of passenger footwell

    -USB port in glove box

    The control panel is the wild card. It could also go into the center stack storage compartment, but I'd probably lose access to the accessory outlet; or possibly on IP between DIC controls and steering wheel; or on IP to right of steering wheel (hard to see); or on console, just behind shifter; or...maybe put display on top of steering wheel column and control panel inside center stack storage compartment?

    I'm also wondering if the metalized coating on our grilles might affect range or response time with the detector mounted behind it. Should the grille be slotted in front of the detector? Hmmm...

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    Re: 9500ci

    I have had the 9500ci installed in my V coupe for 6+ months now and love it. It detects radar a lot further than the K40 installed in our RR and IMO the laser works great. I have not read the reviews or seen the stats on how it compares to the Bell, but I've been in several situations where I know it has worked flawlessly. In one instance, the office was shooting the car with laser over and over, when I got close, I could see the officer look dumbfounded at his laser to see if it was still on or working. As I passed him, he turned around and continued to shoot my vehicle from the rear. I was speeding for a good bit of time he was shooting the vehicle.

    FWIW, the radar and laser modules are mounted behind the front bumper and the rear laser is attached to the license plate holes. The system comes with a speaker, LED indicator, LED display and control panel. The speaker is mounted under the driver dash, LED indicator in the dash near the spedo, LED display behind the ash tray cover and the control panel in the center console stack.

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    Re: 9500ci

    pics of it installed???

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMX322V S/C View Post
    I'm also considering an STi-R Plus now that it's finally available in NA. I consulted with an installer to come up with ideas on mounting points for the various pieces. I was wondering if you'd care to compare notes?

    Here's our line of thinking so far:

    -Detector behind upper grille, on bottom of grille opening below wreath and crest, dead center

    -GPS antenna on flat area of dash between defroster outlet and passenger-side speaker grille

    -Display inside center stack storage compartment

    -Speaker in outer corner of passenger footwell

    -USB port in glove box

    The control panel is the wild card. It could also go into the center stack storage compartment, but I'd probably lose access to the accessory outlet; or possibly on IP between DIC controls and steering wheel; or on IP to right of steering wheel (hard to see); or on console, just behind shifter; or...maybe put display on top of steering wheel column and control panel inside center stack storage compartment?

    I'm also wondering if the metalized coating on our grilles might affect range or response time with the detector mounted behind it. Should the grille be slotted in front of the detector? Hmmm...
    As far as the placement of the radar receiver goes, I have read and seen (somewhere I came across a video with "Radar Roy" and "Veil Guy" discussing a 9500ci installation) that placing the receiver behind a grill, specifically a chrome grill (including chromed plastic) can seriously degrade the reception. It has somethign to do with the polarity of the signal as is passes through the grill.

    As well, they discussed how the radar signal passes right through the rubber bumper cover, and as such, it was better to actually mount the receiver behind a nice, smooth, flat piece of the bumper, as long as there was no metal in front of it. Veil Guy actually mounted his receiver way down low, behind the bumper, on the driver's side of his BMW. His therory was a low mouting location allowed for better reception than a higher mounted location, as the incoming signal would pass below any vehicles in front of him, which might block the signals from reaching a higher mounted receiver (at least that was his theory...).

    As for the GPS antenna, I was thinking about perhaps placing it on the rear deck, where it could see the sky through the rear window. Would not be as noticeable as if mounted on the front dash, and I certainly won't be mounting it externally.

    The display I was thinking about mounting on top of the rear view mirror. This would allow for easy view, but it would be up very high so as to be almost unnoticeable.

    The speaker, well, obviously under dahs somehwere, probably driver's side if I can make it fit with the head unit as well as my Laser Interceptor's head unit.

    USB port may go in the cener stack sotrage compartment or the glove box, as you have suggested.

    The control panel I was thinking about mouting on the driver's door panel, below the window conrols etc. It would be easily acceible there, and all but invisible to anyone but the driver....the only thing is that i am not sure if I want my door disassembled or not.

    Soem of this may hinge on whether or not I decide to install it myself or have a shop do it. There is a very good shop near to me, but I don't know how much they will charge.

    Finally, yes, it is my understanding that even though our grill is plastic, the chrome finish on it may affect performance if the receiver is mounted behind it. Defintely worth looking into further though....

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    Re: 9500ci

    Hmm. Yeah, I read about placing the detector behind the bumper cover, but since the detector also detects laser... Dang, might have to slot the grille... Hope it fits under the wreath and crest...

    I like the rear parcel shelf idea for the GPS antenna. That's where I placed the antenna for a portable XM receiver in another car and I agree, it would be more discreet.

    Thanks for sharing your ideas!

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    Re: 9500ci

    Quote Originally Posted by mowershop View Post
    Already did a search and didn't find the answer I was looking for.Does anyone have a 9500ci installed in a v2? Pics comments worth it??? Just doing some homework before dropping that much $$$
    If you have any radar detector questions throw them my way and I will be glad to help you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomm View Post
    If you have any radar detector questions throw them my way and I will be glad to help you.
    Thanks tomm....what are your thoughts about mounting the antenna behind the grill vs. behind the bumper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wannago View Post
    Thanks tomm....what are your thoughts about mounting the antenna behind the grill vs. behind the bumper?
    I have always mounted them behind the grill in both slotted and mesh grills and never had a problem. Radar Signals are directional and laser is 100% directional and mounting the antenna behind anything will always reduce sensitivity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomm View Post
    I have always mounted them behind the grill in both slotted and mesh grills and never had a problem. Radar Signals are directional and laser is 100% directional and mounting the antenna behind anything will always reduce sensitivity.
    So tomm, you do feel the unit will work well with the receiver mounted behind the chrome grill? In my instance, all I will want it to do is detect RADAR...I will be installing a Laser Interceptor for the lidar. Our grills have fairly large spaces between each "grid", so it would appear the receiver would not have a problem receiving radar through it (although I am not savvy enough to completely understand the exact nature of the problems a grill is alleged to present). It would certainly make mounting easier...


    Tks

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    Re: 9500ci

    Any updates on this topic

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    Re: 9500ci

    just get it, no regrets

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