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2009-2014 Cadillac CTS-V General Discussion Discussion, Must Read All New CTS-V Owners !! in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2009-2014; I read this thread and had my diff fluid checked and subsequently changed. http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...not-happy.html Adrian, you can lead a horse ...
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    Re: Must Read All New CTS-V Owners !!

    I read this thread and had my diff fluid checked and subsequently changed.

    http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...not-happy.html

    Adrian, you can lead a horse to water...............

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    Re: Must Read All New CTS-V Owners !!

    Sometimes I don't understand this.

    Step 1: Buy brand new car
    Step 2: Immediately go to Dealer and make sure it was assembled correctly.

    The new standard of the world, huh? OK. Sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nradcad View Post
    Sometimes I don't understand this.

    Step 1: Buy brand new car
    Step 2: Immediately go to Dealer and make sure it was assembled correctly.

    The new standard of the world, huh? OK. Sure.
    Yep. Unless you believe the uaw is double and triple checking the build quality of your vehicle on a friday afternnoon

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    I really don't see what all this backlash is about. It has been repeatedly proven that there is inconsistancy in the diff fluid levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razorecko View Post
    Yep. Unless you believe the uaw is double and triple checking the build quality of your vehicle on a friday afternnoon
    You're right....good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RippyPartsDept View Post
    Stephen P, (really is) so they suggest changing it at 3,000 miles ...
    and go a few more weeks or months, but then you're guessing ...

    if you ...,,. also note that the... (and the CTS-V actually has a different oil spec than the regular cts if I recall correctly)
    "the reference to a 3,000 mile interval is if you accidentally reset the OLM" does not identify how many miles are previously driven! Therefore "for instance, if you were at 40% oil life" as calculated for miles + driving conditions, the miles driven could be 200 or 10,000. If I had driven ten (10) miles and reset the OLM, "therefore you do not know what the oil life percentage" nor do I care.
    I will be changing within a measured known 3,000 miles. Weeks or months, no. Mile limit, yes! Yup, this exceeds the GM Waranty service frequency. They will certainly take my money. ".. sure you could guess"
    ALSO, about the oil......context of that statement..", this thread addresses OLM Reset, with an aside reference to oil viscosity. Actually, If anyone wants this much BS in a reply, go to the Owner's Manual. "...dexos™ oils are only for 2011 and newer vehicles...." I GUESS (on this statement) this is somewhat relevant. The GM Computer Oil Life Calculation is an arbitrary determination that I will not trust. If it included input from an oil conductivity (fouling) probe [such devices are available], I would consider it.
    "...you left out.. use any starburst 5w30 oil as a substitute for topping off." OK?
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    Stephen, I'm having a hard time understanding what you're saying here.

    What I can figure out is that you don't seem to understand how the OLM system works.
    First, it's not arbitrary. Second, it does not take miles driven into account.
    Read up on it here

    That post is kind of long, but it's very informative and from a PowerTrain Engineer. The following is the basic rundown of the OLM system.
    The GM engine oil life monitor counts engine revolutions and accumulates the number for the basis of the oil life calculation. It then adds deterioration factors for operating temperature, start up temperature, soak times, ambient, coolant temperature, etc...
    And lastly, I'm not sure why you edited/modified/added to what I wrote and cut it up. Kind of makes it seem like you're trying to misquote me, and as I said at first it also makes it harder to read and comprehend.

    If you want to keep up with 3,000 mile oil change intervals that's fine with me. I'm just trying to make sure that there's not a misunderstanding or misinformation and that you (and others that may be reading this) know what the OLM system is really doing and how it works.

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    Re: Must Read All New CTS-V Owners !!

    "... .understand how the OLM system works.."
    I understand that the OLM is the ultimate compromise. If you do not want to spend money, take the time, or involve yourself in mundane inocuous car maintenance....then watch the oil life % indication.
    I understand that your noble interpretation is ideal and far above my humble capabilities. Having a degree in Geology, extensive chemistry and math education, practical 33 years of experience, Licensed Nuclear Engineer, etc. merely!
    Mongo cannot (will not) accept (understand??) acquiescing to compromised standards. I bow to you. Sir!

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    Re: Must Read All New CTS-V Owners !!

    Um... what?

    Did you read the explanation of the OLM in the link I provided?
    This is not some 'interpretation' as you put it. This is science fact.
    There's no compromise here either. Just maximizing efficiency.
    I'm pretty sure that the people who invented the system have a longer list of accolades and higher ed degrees than you (like that really matters anyway).

    But the point is that it works and it's been tested ... and it's been in use for over two decades.

    The whole point of the system is to save owners money and to conserve natural resources.
    It's obviously your choice to do the oil changes at whatever interval you choose, but I think you're greatly misinformed here.

    See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3,000_mile_myth

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    I refuse to believe that today, the Cadillac dealers do not check fluid levels AND the factory sent a car low on a fluid. Both situations would have to exist for a new owner to receive a car low on a fluid. Not believing that is very likely at all. In fact, I think it to be so unlikely, that I will not even check fluid levels except oil and only after driving a few hundred miles or so.

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    How do you explain the low fluid levels people are experiencing immediatley after taking delivery?

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    Re: Must Read All New CTS-V Owners !!

    Quote Originally Posted by cbloveday View Post
    How do you explain the low fluid levels people are experiencing immediatley after taking delivery?
    My '09's fluid levels were all good upon delivery. However, for all those that had low levels, it kind of makes you wonder what those mysterious 'PDI' fees are from the dealer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danko View Post
    I refuse to believe that today, the Cadillac dealers do not check fluid levels AND the factory sent a car low on a fluid. Both situations would have to exist for a new owner to receive a car low on a fluid. Not believing that is very likely at all. In fact, I think it to be so unlikely, that I will not even check fluid levels except oil and only after driving a few hundred miles or so.
    Its a good thing the military didnt use that line of thinking during the world wars... Maybe if we just ignore Hitler, he'll go away...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4gear70 View Post
    My '09's fluid levels were all good upon delivery. However, for all those that had low levels, it kind of makes you wonder what those mysterious 'PDI' fees are from the dealer...
    IF you are one of the unlucy few with low fluids, the PDI fees should be refunded.

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