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    First to say it: V2 reviews are boring.

    Is anybody else getting bored reading the never ending positives and - apparently - zero negatives that the V2 is getting?

    Don't get me wrong, it looks like GM and Caddy hit a homer with the V2. But I keep hoping to find something, somewhere that's worth really arguing or quibbling about and there just isn't anything.

    At worst, a reviewer might allude to a comparable (and presumably more expense) competitor as somehow being better in an intangible way - like Clarkson's ending where he says that an "I believe that ultimately an M5 would be more satisfying, a touch more crisp." but that's all subjective and not much fun to kick around (other than to pile on).

    I suppose the final frontier of debate is the still unannounced final price and the #s that real world consumers put down at their local tracks, but all indicators are that they're going to be relatively awesome (even if they don't quite "suck the doors off an M5").

    In the end, I'm not hoping for a fatal flaw, but it's looking more and more like this is going to be a pretty quiet forum if there's nothing much to complain about.

    There's worse problems to have, but its going to be boring if the damn thing is perfect.

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    Re: First to say it: V2 reviews are boring.

    I'm not exactly bored. I saw one reviewer characterize the acceleration as comparable to being lit on fire, taking a cheese grater to your nut sack, splashing alcohol on the wound and being squeezed out the anus of a female rhino in heat simultaneously. Now that my friends is excitement!

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    Re: First to say it: V2 reviews are boring.

    Quote Originally Posted by razl View Post
    Is anybody else getting bored reading the never ending positives and - apparently - zero negatives that the V2 is getting?

    Don't get me wrong, it looks like GM and Caddy hit a homer with the V2. But I keep hoping to find something, somewhere that's worth really arguing or quibbling about and there just isn't anything.

    At worst, a reviewer might allude to a comparable (and presumably more expense) competitor as somehow being better in an intangible way - like Clarkson's ending where he says that an "I believe that ultimately an M5 would be more satisfying, a touch more crisp." but that's all subjective and not much fun to kick around (other than to pile on).

    I suppose the final frontier of debate is the still unannounced final price and the #s that real world consumers put down at their local tracks, but all indicators are that they're going to be relatively awesome (even if they don't quite "suck the doors off an M5").

    In the end, I'm not hoping for a fatal flaw, but it's looking more and more like this is going to be a pretty quiet forum if there's nothing much to complain about.

    There's worse problems to have, but its going to be boring if the damn thing is perfect.

    This is a nice thread to change the pace here since it seems like the MSRP reveal is being delayed. (I would jokingly say because the V2 is the absolute last thing on any execs mind at GM right now, but no one is laughing.)

    I agree that the reviews are positive, and part of the reason is perspective.. hint: price. If GM released this car at $80k loaded, you would start to hear immediate groaning from the rags. The top gear guy hinted at the end of the review that if money were no object he would still buy the M5. At $59k, all of the positives will continue to shine. Caddy needs to make sure money is an object for the V2 to be universally loved.

    Also, the car is still in the honeymooning phase with the press. Does anyone remember how long the new GTO was the darling of the rags until it turned out that 3 of them sold? After sales tanked all of the sudden the rags thought the car was ugly and terrible. They hedge thier bets early on until sales back up the reviews.

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    Re: First to say it: V2 reviews are boring.

    Gm has not only decided not to release the MSRP just on the NEW 2009 CTS-V, GM has decided that even though the new Camero is to be on show rooms floors in a few months the Camero MSRP is top secret .

    The GM Exec. maybe checking into the planned gold parachute more than other things, or not.

    But who cares?

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    Re: First to say it: V2 reviews are boring.

    "Camero"



    Every magazine and web site in print has told us what the MSRP of the CTS-V and Camaro are going to be. The only people still complaining are those who are too thick to read between the very transparent lines.
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    Re: First to say it: V2 reviews are boring.

    ThankYou, I know that all can say for a fact that everyone welcomes your thoughtful reply.

    Your the BEST, your gunna get plenty of sales from buyers (that actually have cash) with your thoughtful replies and knowledge.

    I for one will be in line to purchase.

    THANKS

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    Re: First to say it: V2 reviews are boring.

    camero++

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    Re: First to say it: V2 reviews are boring.

    Quote Originally Posted by vperl View Post
    ThankYou, I know that all can say for a fact that everyone welcomes your thoughtful reply.
    Seriously man- every magazine out there has been told by Cadillac the car will be $60k + options, est. $68k loaded. Why is the "official" announcement so important, and why do some people think it's some big conspiracy?

    Sheesh.

    We've got this amazing car coming out that even Jeremy Clarkson thinks is insanely good, and yet all we can do is squabble about an MSRP we already know.
    Rest in Peace, J.D. (aka Dirt_Cheap_Fleetwood)

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    Re: First to say it: V2 reviews are boring.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Tony Show View Post
    Seriously man- every magazine out there has been told by Cadillac the car will be $60k + options, est. $68k loaded. Why is the "official" announcement so important, and why do some people think it's some big conspiracy?

    Sheesh.

    We've got this amazing car coming out that even Jeremy Clarkson thinks is insanely good, and yet all we can do is squabble about an MSRP we already know.
    I am sure that the wives and bankers are fine with what someone saw in a magazine

    Can we stop acting like price is not one of the most important factors in buying a car? I have never bought a thing in my life where $5k didn't matter, I would be out of business if I did.

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    Re: First to say it: V2 reviews are boring.

    Here's the answer: Don't consider buying it till you know the price. It's not like they are on the lots now without stickers on 'em. Good grief.

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    Re: First to say it: V2 reviews are boring.

    Quote Originally Posted by razl
    Is anybody else getting bored reading the never ending positives and - apparently - zero negatives that the V2 is getting?

    Don't get me wrong, it looks like GM and Caddy hit a homer with the V2. But I keep hoping to find something, somewhere that's worth really arguing or quibbling about and there just isn't anything.
    Well, there you go razl. It looks like the Internet will always find something to argue, quibble or complain about.
    Rest in Peace, J.D. (aka Dirt_Cheap_Fleetwood)

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    Re: First to say it: V2 reviews are boring.

    I almost dread when the cars hit the streets. This board will be more whiney than...nevermind.

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    Re: First to say it: V2 reviews are boring.

    yeah nevermind, but the whining will be unparalleled

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    Re: First to say it: V2 reviews are boring.

    I figure that (Jpjr) meant exactly the thing I have been asking .....

    The MSRP does matter, however if there a load of richey riches out there using Daddy's money, I can understand why 5K means nothing, and the types of replies that are given by the ones selling the vehicles to us, that actually have means to buy the vehicle..

    Seems some of you are acting like one of my X's, spending cash becasue they have it in hand today.... like a (parden the expression) "Drunk Sailor".

    But, I am sure someone will make some snide remarks, which I dearly love.
    I have little to do , but watch little people show how little they are.

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    Re: First to say it: V2 reviews are boring.

    What 5k are you talking about?
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