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    Re: Will GMs current plight effect MSRP?

    I was only pointing out shady dealers.

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    Re: Will GMs current plight effect MSRP?

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    I was only pointing out shady dealers.

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    Re: Will GMs current plight effect MSRP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cadillac Tony View Post
    Guys, guys......seriously.

    GM has already all but told every magazine and Web Site what the price of the car will be. Changing market conditions, stock values and the credit market require solutions much more grand than raising the price of one limited production car by a few thousand bucks. If anything, it's the "meat and potatoes" cars like the Aveo, Malibu, G6 and V6 CTS that sell in huge volumes that will help foot the bill for rising material costs- raising invoice on those $500-$750 x 500,000 units will generate tons more cash for GM than than an extra $5,000 to the CTS-V on a paltry 6,000 units ($375mil versus $30mil for those keeping count at home). I'm sure they'll also be leveraging some incremental price increases in China (where they're selling more cars than in the US).

    Relax, everyone. The 2009 CTS-V isn't even a drop in the bucket for GM from a financial standpoint. Even if the price does go up after the first year (which is likely), people who have preordered the car or buy the first year won't be affected.
    GM has some decisions to make. They may have no choice but to cut halo cars that lose money right now to stop the bleeding. ZR1 production has stopped with no explanation or sign of another start up, I personally think it is a quality issue, but i would not be shocked if it was cancelled either.

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    Re: Will GMs current plight effect MSRP?

    One thing to note, while stocks have fallen so have raw materials. Oil, copper, aluminum and most other metals are way down in cost and the US dollar is getting stronger. So while stocks look grim, the cost of raw materials for the cars will be less. Not that we'll see that in the sticker, but it is what it is.

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    Re: Will GMs current plight effect MSRP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knuguy View Post
    One thing to note, while stocks have fallen so have raw materials. Oil, copper, aluminum and most other metals are way down in cost and the US dollar is getting stronger. So while stocks look grim, the cost of raw materials for the cars will be less. Not that we'll see that in the sticker, but it is what it is.
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    Re: Will GMs current plight effect MSRP?

    Originally Posted by Cadillac Tony
    Guys, guys......seriously.

    GM has already all but told every magazine and Web Site what the price of the car will be. Changing market conditions, stock values and the credit market require solutions much more grand than raising the price of one limited production car by a few thousand bucks. If anything, it's the "meat and potatoes" cars like the Aveo, Malibu, G6 and V6 CTS that sell in huge volumes that will help foot the bill for rising material costs- raising invoice on those $500-$750 x 500,000 units will generate tons more cash for GM than than an extra $5,000 to the CTS-V on a paltry 6,000 units ($375mil versus $30mil for those keeping count at home). I'm sure they'll also be leveraging some incremental price increases in China (where they're selling more cars than in the US).

    Relax, everyone. The 2009 CTS-V isn't even a drop in the bucket for GM from a financial standpoint. Even if the price does go up after the first year (which is likely), people



    ----------------------------------------------------------------Hate to agree with that guy from the Juice state, but he has a very good point...

    Seems weree were told at one time GM was going to produce 8K vehicles if there was a demand....

    If indeed GM is going into production in 30 days... it seems odd still no MSRP... but who cares?

    Buying any vehicle is based upon the car and price.... looks good now, maybe not so good later.

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    Re: Will GMs current plight effect MSRP?

    After late Friday's news they might be changing the name before they put a price on it, "CTS-SRT"! Just rumors right now.


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    Re: Will GMs current plight effect MSRP?

    The Chevy Challenger? The Dodge Camaro?

    Holy shit, the universe is going to explode.

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    Re: Will GMs current plight effect MSRP?

    Quote Originally Posted by V-Love View Post
    Agreed. Buy GOLD now! You should see my 80's chain. I tripled my money!!! If I had an extra 10k - 100k, I would get an account with one of the on line trade companies (scott trade, ect.....anyone have good relations with one of them?) and trust myself. I am just a technician, BUT, I know a good deal when I see it.
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    I'm going to have to report you for PUI. Pull it over, bub.

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    Re: Will GMs current plight effect MSRP?

    Since my thread was closed in the STS-V forum by someone, i'll post here where it is a valid question. Aparently the owners of this forum don't want us talking about current PUBLIC / CONFIRMED news.

    With GM seeking to partner up with Chrysler or Ford what is the future for the V2??? Maybe that is why pricing is not out yet. Thoughts.


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    Re: Will GMs current plight effect MSRP?

    I don't know why that thread was locked; usually it would have just been moved to "The Lounge" since it wasn't specifically about the STS-V. Anyhow, I believe the V2 will hit the lots by the end of November.

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    Re: Will GMs current plight effect MSRP?

    there's already about 6 gm merge threads in the lounge

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    Re: Will GMs current plight effect MSRP?

    Quote Originally Posted by urbanski View Post
    there's already about 6 gm merge threads in the lounge
    My bad. I looked for a specific one and didn't come up with any.

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    Re: Will GMs current plight effect MSRP?

    The R&D is done. The testing and tuning is done. Parts suppliers are involved, have been paid, and parts are sitting at LGR waiting for production to begin. At this point, choosing to NOT build the car would make all of those dollars a complete loss. The only situation I can imagine that would result in the CTS-V being canceled is if the LGR plant were closed in the next 17 days, but with the V6 CTS still selling extremely well that's not going to happen.

    This is much ado about nothing. Here's an alternative theory: Maybe GM is keeping the price a secret to prevent MB and BMW from making adjustments to the packages and pricing of their AMGs and Ms until the V is already on the market?

    As another poster on here would say- "Food for thought......"
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    Re: Will GMs current plight effect MSRP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cadillac Tony View Post

    This is much ado about nothing. Here's an alternative theory: Maybe GM is keeping the price a secret to prevent MB and BMW from making adjustments to the packages and pricing of their AMGs and Ms until the V is already on the market?

    As another poster on here would say- "Food for thought......"
    no. C nailed it. they're doing it to piss folks here off

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