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    MSRP ? why the big secret?

    I am sure there is a greeat reason why the MSRp on the V has not been released by GM. I have my suspisions, but not wanting to mention them maybe best. Does anyone have an EDUCATED reason or guess ?

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    Re: MSRP ? why the big secret?

    The option package configuration has changed three times in the last month, and there are also a few pre-production cars running around with wood trim (which is currently not shown as an option).

    My educated guess would be that they're still finalizing how the options will be packaged and priced.
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    Re: MSRP ? why the big secret?

    What about all them people that ordered one? What happens to their packages!

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    Re: MSRP ? why the big secret?

    Quote Originally Posted by parttimer View Post
    What about all them people that ordered one? What happens to their packages!
    Not a proper discussion topic for this forum.

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    Re: MSRP ? why the big secret?



    The items available as options have not changed- just the way they're grouped. Originally, there was a "Performance Collection" that included the Nav, Suede wheel and shifter, polished wheels and Recaros. Those options are still there, but they're separate "free flow" options now (including the suede, which used to be only available with the collection).

    If your Dealer has ordered you one with the options you want, you'll get exactly what you ordered.
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    Re: MSRP ? why the big secret?

    My locally delaership is showing on their web page that you can build your car but the only thing missing is color choices and of course, prices. I was able to get a real good idea of what the standard equipment is. It won't take many added options to get what you want since the base model will be pretty good.

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    Re: MSRP ? why the big secret?

    Maybe they're trying to gauge the market on how much Coupe-Vs or Wagon-Vs they can sell to distribute the costs. Also what other programs could use the powertrains and suspensions such as z28, gxp, etc. That way its a potentially lower price for the consumer but without hurting GM's bottomline.

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    Re: MSRP ? why the big secret?

    Quote Originally Posted by parttimer View Post
    What about all them people that ordered one? What happens to their packages!
    Jerry beat me to it.....too funny


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    Re: MSRP ? why the big secret?

    Why is GM stalling, easy...they dont know what they're doing....
    We are know the 2009 V stats are amazing (hopefully everthing we have seen/read is true)
    But the marketplace is changing, there's now ALOT of sub 5 sec sedans on the market...
    Price it at $75k or more, most will pass, price it at $60k dealers will marku to $75k++ and we'll pass...
    Personally, I'll look at the car 2yrs from now at 40% less..... I did with my 2004 CTS-V.
    BMW, Audi, and others will then release their V killers.... and on it goes....
    GM should be careful with this car, IE Ford's 2007 GT500 stickered @ $46k and dealers makring them to $75k+
    now you can buy a GT500 for under sticker.....

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    Re: MSRP ? why the big secret?

    Quote Originally Posted by jerrycecco View Post
    Why is GM stalling, easy...they dont know what they're doing....
    We are know the 2009 V stats are amazing (hopefully everthing we have seen/read is true)
    But the marketplace is changing, there's now ALOT of sub 5 sec sedans on the market...
    Price it at $75k or more, most will pass, price it at $60k dealers will marku to $75k++ and we'll pass...
    Personally, I'll look at the car 2yrs from now at 40% less..... I did with my 2004 CTS-V.
    BMW, Audi, and others will then release their V killers.... and on it goes....
    GM should be careful with this car, IE Ford's 2007 GT500 stickered @ $46k and dealers makring them to $75k+
    now you can buy a GT500 for under sticker.....


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    Exactly, as I have tried to say.. The HYPE from those that have vested interest in big sticker, not the CONSUMER, the guy that BUYS,the vehicle...
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    Re: MSRP ? why the big secret?

    I hope they don't make the mistake they made on the XLR-V. Folks paid over $100,000 for the first ones then they sat on lots.

    Late in the first year I bought a new one for $77,000 and the dealer was thrilled to sell it since he had 3 more sitting. If GM gets big eyes on this car, I will back off, keep my M5 and let others take the hit.

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    Re: MSRP ? why the big secret?

    Talked with my dealer today and his best guess is pricing in Oct. When they start building them... Just like there expirence with the Escalade hybrid the most current new offering. They didn't get pricing till they were in production....

    GM is holding as long as possible for this one. They must get it right......65k out the door nicely equipped.....

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    Re: MSRP ? why the big secret?

    Quote Originally Posted by jerrycecco View Post
    Price it at $75k or more, most will pass, price it at $60k dealers will marku to $75k++ and we'll pass...

    GM should be careful with this car, IE Ford's 2007 GT500 stickered @ $46k and dealers makring them to $75k+
    now you can buy a GT500 for under sticker.....
    Quote Originally Posted by vperl View Post
    Exactly, as I have tried to say.. The HYPE from those that have vested interest in big sticker, not the CONSUMER, the guy that BUYS,the vehicle...
    With actual money... I love America.... Free Speech is a wonnderful thing.
    Ok guys, either you have not really been reading this forum for the months we've been posting all this info or you're simply choosing to ignore it.

    The 09V will be selling for about 65K, maybe a few K more or less depending upon how you want it optioned. Not 55K - Not 75K. Please dump those numbers from here on out because you're not being realistic based on the information that has been put out so far since NAIAS 08.

    Now whether some dealership(s) get the initial allotment of cars and try to sell them for more than MSRP is a function of the Dealership(s), not GM / Cadillac. They no longer control the selling price of the car once it's shipped to a dealership. It is the dealerships themselves attempting to get more for the car over MSRP and that doesn't matter if it's GM, Ford, or whoever. If you come across a dealership trying to do this then Go Somewhere Else ! There already has been / is two dealerships represented within this forum who have offered BELOW MSRP for the car, not 10K over. So please stop with the paranoid posts about overpricing the car and how you're going to go buy something else if GM doesn't meet your pricing desires. They are not stupid, they recognize they need to sell the cars, and as it has been their intent all along they are offering a very competitive if not superior product for Less than the competition, not as much or more as you keep wanting to infer.

    If you have not already spoken to a dealership / salesman and put a deposit down on one of these cars then the odds are you're going to be waiting several months before you can even attempt to buy one because the serious buyers have already beat you by placing a deposit and are in line to get their car. The initial shipments will be only a few cars to various dealerships. In most cases they have more people waiting in line with deposits down than they will be getting initially. My local dealership has 11 people with deposits on the cars in line as of right now, possibly more since the last time I spoke with them. So some of those folks are going to have to wait, even with a deposit down.

    So please stop with the "overpriced" ranting. It is simply not being realistic. If you can afford to purchase a 65K dollar car and have a few months you can wait to get one then you have nothing to be concerned about. If you can't afford that price (possibly as low as 60-62k) then you need to go elsewhere because that's going to be the ballpark of the pricing. Since you don't already have a deposit down, then you also need to be prepared to wait several months even if you can pay the 65K price because it's going to be a few months before the orders are filled for the folks who do already have a deposit down and are waiting. If you can't wait that long then go buy something else. I hear an 06 M5 can be had for about what this car will cost new.

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    Great post, CIWS.
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    Re: MSRP ? why the big secret?

    Quote Originally Posted by jerrycecco View Post
    Why is GM stalling, easy...they dont know what they're doing....
    We are know the 2009 V stats are amazing (hopefully everthing we have seen/read is true)
    But the marketplace is changing, there's now ALOT of sub 5 sec sedans on the market...
    Price it at $75k or more, most will pass, price it at $60k dealers will marku to $75k++ and we'll pass...
    Personally, I'll look at the car 2yrs from now at 40% less..... I did with my 2004 CTS-V.
    BMW, Audi, and others will then release their V killers.... and on it goes....
    GM should be careful with this car, IE Ford's 2007 GT500 stickered @ $46k and dealers makring them to $75k+
    now you can buy a GT500 for under sticker.....
    Buy Ford or something else. This is gonna' be an excellent car.

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