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2009-2014 Cadillac CTS-V General Discussion Discussion, 09 CTS-V LSA Engine -> 09 ZR-1 LS9 Engine in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2009-2014; What world class motor does BMW have? GM's ancient pushrod V motors have proven to be higher hp, higher torque, ...
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    GNSCOTT is offline Cadillac Owners Connoisseur
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    Re: 09 CTS-V LSA Engine -> 09 ZR-1 LS9 Engine

    What world class motor does BMW have? GM's ancient pushrod V motors have proven to be higher hp, higher torque, longer lasting, MUCh cheaper to build and maintain, and get much better feul economy. Show me a better performance engine from any other manufacturer. Also funny how my old Buick GN with a 7000rpm shift point only made about 1200/1200. Damn GM pushrod motors suck.

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    Re: 09 CTS-V LSA Engine -> 09 ZR-1 LS9 Engine

    http://www.ukipme.com/engineoftheyea...rs_08/3_4.html

    http://www.ukipme.com/engineoftheyear/categories.html

    USA had the most judges, twice as many as any other country or region.

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    Re: 09 CTS-V LSA Engine -> 09 ZR-1 LS9 Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by Jpjr View Post
    http://www.ukipme.com/engineoftheyea...rs_08/3_4.html

    http://www.ukipme.com/engineoftheyear/categories.html

    USA had the most judges, twice as many as any other country or region.
    So just because the USA has the most judges, they can't be biased?? Come on. The fact BMW wins so many awards from this organization is proof of atleast some bias. They make great engines, don't get me wrong. There actually may not be a bias among these people or other engine awards, but I think there is a bias in general against OHV among the sorts of people involved in stuff like this. They tend to be journalist/media and enthusiast sorts involved. I am sure they are all quite in the know about engine tech and design compared to most, but the packaging and weight advantages of OHV's in V arrangements is still a pretty lesser known fact. And it's not really something that can be understood if you are basing judgement of an engine on the final overall vehicle it is put in.

    Now if you goto design a performance oriented car and then get to a stage where you want to pick an engine for your car, that is a different story. Look at the number of LS derived engines used in extreme low volume hand crafted performance cars and other similar efforts and you will start to understand just how amazing these engines really are. Really it's almost more surprising to hear of an engine outside the LS used in such vehicles.

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    Re: 09 CTS-V LSA Engine -> 09 ZR-1 LS9 Engine

    Yes, it's a conspiracy that a large displacement pushrod motor with a roots style blower did not make the top ten. The American judges are clearly biased.

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