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    Re: GM is about to miss the boat... Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    How cool would it be if GM were to take 10 owners that owned the current production model (in are case it would be the V1) and get there input on what could make the next generation car better. I mean if you took 10 of us from the board and we all gave are dislikes about are V’s and what would have made it better how bad @$$ would the V2 be?
    I would be VERY surprised to find that GM doesn't monitor every single automotive forum on the internet. If they aren't then shame on 'em. This place alone is a goldmine for information from "real" owners.

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    Re: GM is about to miss the boat... Again

    dude, easy answer if it is not important to you read something else. I didnt know i had to organize my rant. I wouldn't want you to get you panties twisted but on the other hand seems like you understood the statement.

    on another level i think if im the one spending the 70 grand == who cares how my sentences and paragraphes are on a forum. I will not cry if you read something else. I though it was all in good fun, but I guess it's not. I bet you have owned at least 1 BMW in your life.

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    wow I now know who are the ZVP choices on both sides.... and GM still has not released ball park prices... MB here i come

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    Re: GM is about to miss the boat... Again

    So you'll buy an inferior and overpriced product and suffer the stoplight losses and knowledge that you paid too much for a car because you can't wait 60 days?

    Alrighty then.

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    60 days for what pricing or a vehicle? If GM can play with BMW on road and track, I don't see why the vehicle is not for sale. do you?

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    Re: GM is about to miss the boat... Again

    Quote Originally Posted by c5racr1 View Post
    If GM can play with BMW on road and track, I don't see why the vehicle is not for sale. do you?
    They are creating hype for the launch of the vehicle. IMO its going to need all the hype it can get if it is to be successful in this market at $70,000. If you don't want to wait, then go enjoy a new C63; don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out of the forum

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    Re: GM is about to miss the boat... Again

    Quote Originally Posted by c5racr1 View Post
    60 days for what pricing or a vehicle? If GM can play with BMW on road and track, I don't see why the vehicle is not for sale. do you?
    So they don't pull a repeat of the Sky and have 1 car a month to sell, and by the time inventory is available all the interest has died down?

    Don't forget that GM has only been "hyping" the car since January when they revealed it at NAIAS. Everything before that was Internet speculation and spy photos. The car will be on the market in less than 12 months from its public reveal. Where's the beef?

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    Re: GM is about to miss the boat... Again

    Quote Originally Posted by The Tony Show View Post
    So they don't pull a repeat of the Sky and have 1 car a month to sell, and by the time inventory is available all the interest has died down?

    Don't forget that GM has only been "hyping" the car since January when they revealed it at NAIAS. Everything before that was Internet speculation and spy photos. The car will be on the market in less than 12 months from its public reveal. Where's the beef?

    I personally think that anyone after a V2 in 2008 that is willing to pay MSRP or more will get one. I was willing to pay well over MSRP for the Solstice GXP in 2006, was #1 on a dealer list, and still couldn't get an allocation for 5 months after production started.

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    Re: GM is about to miss the boat... Again

    My point exactly.

    They hyped and released the Solstice and Sky before they were able to even build the things at a reliable rate, and they're not going to repeat the same mistake with the CTS-V.

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    Re: GM is about to miss the boat... Again

    Quote Originally Posted by The Tony Show View Post
    They hyped and released the Solstice and Sky before they were able to even build the things at a reliable rate, and they're not going to repeat the same mistake with the CTS-V.
    So why is it that GM would have such trouble ramping up production on something that's going to be built in limited numbers anyway?

    For those who think that GM's the only one that releases half-baked product, or product with teething problems - I'll remind you that the early E46 M3's and S54-motor M Coupes had crank-breakage problems and the SMG was an acquired taste at best, the E60 M5's SMG has had numerous software fixes and the 6-speed three-pedal version's a bodge, the C5 RS6's DRC suspension has been an absolute "thou shalt not own this car out of warranty" item, etc. It's all about how the manufacturer and the dealer handles the situation when things fall apart.

    Oh, and yeah, Toyota seems to have spread half of the year's IS-F production around as VIP cars for the Monterey Historics. Finally got a look at one. Yeah, those exhausts in the rear fascia are little fake rings. I'm sorry, it doesn't matter how good the car is (or not), that's just tacky.

    Obligatory GT-R comment: it's not as ugly as I expected, but it's still not anything that tickles my 'nads, and it's still two doors short.

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    Re: GM is about to miss the boat... Again

    Sounds like OP got messed over to many times at Duplesis?

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    Re: GM is about to miss the boat... Again

    Quote Originally Posted by The Tony Show View Post
    My point exactly.

    They hyped and released the Solstice and Sky before they were able to even build the things at a reliable rate, and they're not going to repeat the same mistake with the CTS-V.
    Actually, I disagree. They are doing the same thing with the V2, but there simply isn't nearly as high demand for a $75k car in quantity as there is a $30k car.

    The Challenger was literally sold out of 2008 production the first day Chrysler started accepting orders. A lot of people will be waiting a long time for their Challenger, similar to the GXP and Redline in 2006.

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    Re: GM is about to miss the boat... Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Jpjr View Post
    Actually, I disagree. They are doing the same thing with the V2, but there simply isn't nearly as high demand for a $75k car in quantity as there is a $30k car.

    The Challenger was literally sold out of 2008 production the first day Chrysler started accepting orders. A lot of people will be waiting a long time for their Challenger, similar to the GXP and Redline in 2006.
    Sold out? I know that's what Dodge's marketing department wants everyone to believe, but it's not the truth according to Cars.com

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