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    CTS-V laughs at the new RS6

    Looks like Audi's new RS6 will come up pretty short in any comparison tests against the new CTS-V:

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    Here's the short version:

    2009 RS6
    Permanent AWD
    Twin Turbo V10
    580hp
    479 lb-ft torque
    4,338 lbs.
    0-60: 4.5 seconds
    Approximately $150,000

    2009 CTS-V:
    RWD
    Supercharged V8
    556hp
    551 lb-ft
    4,300 lbs.
    0-60: 3.9 seconds
    Price estimated between $60k and $80k


    Just more fodder to be eaten up in the comparison tests. Who says the new V needs AWD?
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    Re: CTS-V laughs at the new RS6

    ...but somehow, the Audi will be the greatest thing since sliced bread (according to the media). Right? Let's watch...
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    Re: CTS-V laughs at the new RS6

    Actually that was 0-62 in 4.5 seconds. Not sure if I would believe those numbers, and I hardly think a V will "laugh" at that car.

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    Re: CTS-V laughs at the new RS6

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Cadillac View Post
    ...but somehow, the Audi will be the greatest thing since sliced bread (according to the media). Right? Let's watch...
    I'm sure it will be (according to them ). I just hope Motor Trend has a "Round 2" comparison between the two. The first time out, they dinged the CTS-V for a subpar interior, foot pedal e-brake and slightly lower performance. The 08+ interior has been massively improved, so I'd love to see how things shake out this time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverspeed View Post
    Actually that was 0-62 in 4.5 seconds. Not sure if I would believe those numbers, and I hardly think a V will "laugh" at that car.
    Those numbers came right from Audi's press release, so I assume they're accurate. It's tough to know exactly how they stack up against the V since many "0-60" tests actually use a rollout instead of a standing start- you've gotta do them side by side, same time, same driver. Even if we give the RS6 the benefit of the doubt and assume it pulls a 4.3 (2 tenths is a TON), it's still slower to 60 than the V by almost a half second, and just imagine how far that gap will widen over the trip to 100+ mph.

    Factor in the cost of over twice as much, and it makes the CTS-V look like even more of a bargain than it already does.
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    Re: CTS-V laughs at the new RS6

    Quote Originally Posted by Cadillac Tony View Post
    Who says the new V needs AWD?
    Me, that's who.
    Not a problem for you guys in Florida. Big problem for us guys in the Great White North.

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    Re: CTS-V laughs at the new RS6

    I was referring to the people who postulated that AWD would outperform RWD, even in a straight line. I get your point about snow, but I would imagine that most people who can afford a $70k+ Supercar would also have some spare change for a Winter vehicle.

    Maybe that's just my crazy Florida Native assumption, but I know several guys up North, and even the ones who drive Miatas have a truck or a Subaru wagon for the rough weather days.
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    Re: CTS-V laughs at the new RS6

    However, there are already tuners here in Europe getting 670bhp from these cars, so watch out

    Just look what they can do to an S4, here have a look

    http://www.vimeo.com/1276040 and be sure to watch the whole thing, especially if your a Diablo owner, or one who likes to cry!

    I cancelled an RS6 in favour of the CTS-V so it had better be good!

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    Re: CTS-V laughs at the new RS6

    Audi=another underperforming Deutschland import.
    JFWY, I doubt anyone would pay $150K US for one, maybe the S8 with the same engine could that price.

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    Re: CTS-V laughs at the new RS6

    Quote Originally Posted by Varsity View Post
    http://www.vimeo.com/1276040 and be sure to watch the whole thing, especially if your a Diablo owner, or one who likes to cry!
    Over a minute into the thing and I still had not seen the car, I stopped it. Some of these "filmmakers" need to realize it's about the car not all of the fancy titles and other B.S. they want to throw in.

    Thanks anyway for posting.

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    Re: CTS-V laughs at the new RS6

    ffwd to the 3 min mark

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    Re: CTS-V laughs at the new RS6

    In stock trim this may be the case but if Heffner Performance's Lamborghini Gallarado is an idea as to the potential of the V10 in both of these cars then the RS6 is going to be a hell of a car. But Heffner just built a 930 whp/762 tq Gallarado by adding twin turbos onto the stock V10. So Audi already has the TT's on there so now just add the rest of the mods that they threw onto the Gallarado and instant rocket ship. Here's the car and the supporting mod's.

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    Re: CTS-V laughs at the new RS6

    105,000 Euro including 29% VAT. 116,279 without VAT. Considering most European manufacturers are pricing the same USD as Euros, the US MSRP will likely be in the $116,000 range.

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    Re: CTS-V laughs at the new RS6

    Yes, because we all know the Audi's engine bay will be as accomodating as the Lambo's.


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    Re: CTS-V laughs at the new RS6

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackout View Post
    In stock trim this may be the case but if Heffner Performance's Lamborghini Gallarado is an idea as to the potential of the V10 in both of these cars then the RS6 is going to be a hell of a car. But Heffner just built a 930 whp/762 tq Gallarado by adding twin turbos onto the stock V10. So Audi already has the TT's on there so now just add the rest of the mods that they threw onto the Gallarado and instant rocket ship.
    I'm willing we'll beat that ...with a Mallett.







    just like the last time

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    Re: CTS-V laughs at the new RS6

    Oh yeah, Heffner also converts the Lambos to RWD...

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