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2009-2014 Cadillac CTS-V General Discussion Discussion, Possible Opponents (playmates) in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2009-2014; The thread "Bone Stock" and the comment in from Jpjr: "...at 550hp you are now so far removed from 99% ...
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    The thread "Bone Stock" and the comment in from Jpjr:
    "...at 550hp you are now so far removed from 99% of cars on the road ..."
    made me think. Who are those 1% anyways that are our playmates?
    Maybe two criteria: Sheer HP and Power-to-Weight ratio (any others?)
    This list should grow over time. so please add liberally. Let's start:

    CTS V2 - 556HP, 4200 lbs = 0.132

    CTS V1 - 400HP, 3850 lbs = 0.103
    911 Turbo (07) - 480HP, 3494 lbs = 0.137
    Corvette Z06 - 505HP, 3132 lbs = 0.161
    BMW M5 (08) - 507HP, 4010lbs = 0.126

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    Re: Possible Opponents (playmates)

    08 Corvette

    09 Audi RS6

    08 MB C63 - tuned

    08 G8 GXP (slightly mod'd)

    09 Camaro SS / man xmission (slightly mod'd)

    Slightly slower

    Lexus IS-F

    08 BMW M3

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    CIWS Thanks - if you give me the exact specs I add them to the list

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    Most of the AMG 4 doors should be close

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    You should throw up the torque ratings, as well.

    And put the power-to-weight ratio in pounds per horsepower. That's usually the standard way and just makes for an easier comparison. Those minute fractions don't mean much of anything to me (and, I would think, most other people) as it's not at all familiar, whereas, 7.55 lbs per horsepower for the 09 CTS-V actually gives me a better idea of how it stacks up against other cars.

    Good idea, by the way. Looks like this is gonna end up being an interesting list.

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    'Ring times would give a better idea of each car's all around performance. After all, there is so much more to this car than stoplight racing.

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    All good ideas.
    I cannot get back to my first post to edit it anymore?
    Is there a simple way where anybody can edit a post? This way everybody can contribute some information?

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    So Silver Baron, when are you going to convert a V2 into a rally machine? I'd love to see some Targa Newfoundland in a V2 next year...

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    Just a quick reply thebigjimsho.

    I am waiting as desperately for the release of the car as all of you.
    Have to go now, we have a long weekend coming up and I want to get out of here early.:lesley:
    See to you again next week.

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    Re: Possible Opponents (playmates)

    08 Audi RS4 - 420hp AWD

    ...a good deal behind... but close enough to consider competition.

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    Re: Possible Opponents (playmates)

    IMO.. The new "2007+ Shelby Mustang GT500"!! This car has alot of un-tapped potential, and comes seriously de-tuned.. It is Very Fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gothicaleigh View Post
    'Ring times would give a better idea of each car's all around performance.
    Come on, at least give the Germans a chance!

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    Re: Possible Opponents (playmates)

    Are you looking for _any_ street-driven car, or primarily figuring the entire "package"... e.g.: 4-door "luxury" sedan.

    I think there will be very few cars in its class that are remotely close. The guys above have listed some good ones.

    As far as everything else, there are plenty of quality tuner cars (Lingenfelter, etc) out there with warranties that will outrun a new CTS-V... 1/4 mile, top-end, or around a road course. But these aren't 4-door, luxury sedans, either.

    There are also plenty of home-garage built hot-rods too, but 99% of those are also not in the same class as the CTS-V.

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    Re: Possible Opponents (playmates)

    Hmm a list like this, one must certainly consider the CTS-V's big brother the STS-V stage 2 by D3. At roughly the same weight and 575HP & 530ft lbs., it makes it a formidable challenger... Cant wait to line them up once we get our 09's in. Obviously this is assuming the 09MYCTSV remains at factory HP & TQ outputs. That wont last too long!!!

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    Re: Possible Opponents (playmates)

    Quote Originally Posted by austin View Post
    IMO.. The new "2007+ Shelby Mustang GT500"!! This car has alot of un-tapped potential, and comes seriously de-tuned.. It is Very Fast.
    I have to agree with this... even more HP bang for the buck upside potential than the V... but leagues behind in technology, NVH, and overall appeal.

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