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    Is CTS-V safe from budget cuts?

    Is anyone worried that GM's desperate measures to cut costs and switch to more fuel-efficient vehicles might cause the '09 V to be canceled?

    I'm hoping it's too far along in the pipeline to be detoured now. But does anyone with more actual knowledge have any insight to offer?

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    Re: Is CTS-V safe from budget cuts?

    It will be a limited production vehicle anyway, and like you say it's development is pretty much done. I say it's safe for now.

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    Re: Is CTS-V safe from budget cuts?

    Everything has pretty much been paid for, such as tooling so its relatively safe

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    Re: Is CTS-V safe from budget cuts?

    Are there any production numbers yet?

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    Re: Is CTS-V safe from budget cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by CTSV_510 View Post
    Are there any production numbers yet?
    Yes and no. There are production numbers but I don't think that they are public and that I could release them.

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    Re: Is CTS-V safe from budget cuts?

    It is NOT limited production and GM will build every one they have an order for. There is no way it can be cancelled now. The investment has been made and now its time to get tons of free publicity in every car rag on the stands. Even Chrysler made the Viper at a loss because it needed a halo car to help their image and Caddy needs the same.

    The only reason why the ZR-1 is limited production is because of carbon fiber parts suppliers. GM says it is limited to 2000 units because they think they will only sell 2000 units per year average. Unless you see a tag on the car that says #__ of 2000 or something like that, it is not limited.

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    Re: Is CTS-V safe from budget cuts?

    I'm more concerned about the viability of a third gen V - That's what's in the pipeline now. Today's CTS and its variants are all but done.

    Seems we're living the 70s all over again - Imports had the upperhand on small, fuel efficient cars and Detroit struggled to get caught up.

    Here at the local dealer in IL, there is a new Challenger and a #454 of 1000 Superbee collecting dust on the lot. If the economy was healthy, they'd be gone. Will the V be the same?

    And I saw a Priu$ on the way home from work with big chrome Turdra badging. All I can say there is crap on crap.

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    Re: Is CTS-V safe from budget cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by GNSCOTT View Post
    It is NOT limited production and GM will build every one they have an order for.
    GM's statements to the press all along is that the CTS-V will see production numbers that would be LIMITED to about 7000 units annually. Now perhaps you have a different definition of what limited production means. But to GM it means they're are only going to build up to a certain number annually, not unlimited. So pardon me if I choose to listen to what they say to the public / press over your opinion of it.

    "Production on the new CTS V-Series will start in September of 2008, and will be limited to about 7000 units annually. Internally, GM is referring to the car as "GMX322 V S/C."

    http://jalopnik.com/cars/new-cars/20...s+v-305315.php

    "MILFORD, Mich. - As final testing of the limited-edition 2009 CTS-V nears completion, the results suggest that Cadillac's upcoming sports sedan is entering the stratosphere of the world's highest-performing cars. Cadillac announces the following performance specifications for all-new 2009 CTS-V:"

    http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/09/2...56-horsepower/

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    Known internally as "GMX322 V S/C", the 2009 CTS-V will likely begin production in September of 2008 and reach a maximum of 7,000 units per year."

    http://www.autoblog.com/2007/05/30/s...adillac-cts-v/


    "CTS-V production should get under way in fall 2008 and will be limited to about 7000 units annually."

    http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../70619001/1065

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    Re: Is CTS-V safe from budget cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by StealthV View Post
    And I saw a Priu$ on the way home from work with big chrome Turdra badging. All I can say there is crap on crap.
    Did they at least put the TuRD sticker on it? There's nothing like a company telling everyone that their product is crap and people still buy it.

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    Re: Is CTS-V safe from budget cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by P-Funk View Post
    Did they at least put the TuRD sticker on it? There's nothing like a company telling everyone that their product is crap and people still buy it.
    The Prius is not crap. It's a mix of regular and crap.

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    Re: Is CTS-V safe from budget cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by CIWS View Post
    GM's statements to the press all along is that the CTS-V will see production numbers that would be LIMITED to about 7000 units annually. Now perhaps you have a different definition of what limited production means. But to GM it means they're are only going to build up to a certain number annually, not unlimited. So pardon me if I choose to listen to what they say to the public / press over your opinion of it.

    "Production on the new CTS V-Series will start in September of 2008, and will be limited to about 7000 units annually. Internally, GM is referring to the car as "GMX322 V S/C."

    http://jalopnik.com/cars/new-cars/20...s+v-305315.php

    "MILFORD, Mich. - As final testing of the limited-edition 2009 CTS-V nears completion, the results suggest that Cadillac's upcoming sports sedan is entering the stratosphere of the world's highest-performing cars. Cadillac announces the following performance specifications for all-new 2009 CTS-V:"

    http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/09/2...56-horsepower/

    "Known internally as "GMX322 V S/C", the 2009 CTS-V will likely begin production in September of 2008 and reach a maximum of 7,000 units per year."

    http://www.autoblog.com/2007/05/30/s...adillac-cts-v/


    "CTS-V production should get under way in fall 2008 and will be limited to about 7000 units annually."

    http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../70619001/1065

    Limited to 7k units

    Show me another 7k "limited production" car. If GM thought they could sell 12k units it would "limited" to ABOUT ( )12k units.

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    Re: Is CTS-V safe from budget cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by GNSCOTT View Post
    Limited to 7k units

    Show me another 7k "limited production" car. If GM thought they could sell 12k units it would "limited" to ABOUT ( )12k units.

    Yeah ain't it funny how they're all wrong, but your right

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    Re: Is CTS-V safe from budget cuts?

    If the rollout keeps getting pushed back, it won't even be 7000.

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    Re: Is CTS-V safe from budget cuts?

    Bah, youse guise. At least argue about something worth arguing about. Like is LawFive a f a g for getting the slushbox, or is he a f a g for some other reason.

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    Re: Is CTS-V safe from budget cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Chill View Post
    If the rollout keeps getting pushed back, it won't even be 7000.
    This is unfortunately exactly right. My career is finance and GM is in very big trouble re: liquidity. They need cash, and at this point all costs associated with new products are sunk. If the car is not accretive it is at risk.

    I think the V is very safe for now, but if sales do not meet expectations they will not hesitate to chop it faster than you can blink. Bragging rights used to be important, but not when survival is at stake. It is the next gen Cobalts of the world that will save GM.

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