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    Re: Oh Oh New V Has Major Competition

    I understand what you mean when you are saying that the GT-R is not directly in competition with the V. BUTTTT the way I look at it is that the GT-R is priced the same as the V and it is a mass produced street legal car and therefore in my opinion it is a threat for the V. I know that the V targets the M5, E63, C63 etc. All I am trying to say is that I rather spend the same $ and get an AWD car with many advance features for the same price as a V and it will blow the V away. SO ITS NOT DIRECT COMPETITION BUT ITS A HUGE THREAT. I AM NOW CONSIDERING THE NISSAN AS OPPOSED TO THE V. This car is much more appealing to me.

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    Re: Oh Oh New V Has Major Competition

    Then go buy one- just be prepared for a $20k over MSRP "bend over and take it" charge from the Dealer. I wouldn't switch from a V8 Luxury/Muscle Hybrid to a boy racer V6 no matter how many turbos or videogame readouts it has, but there's an ass for every seat.
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    Re: Oh Oh New V Has Major Competition

    The GT-R's MSRP is 70K, dealer markup is 15-20K to get you one. If you want a badass coupe for less money buy a 08+ C6 corvette and mod it. Even with just a mild cam/ headers with a tune they're making 495-500rwhp. I saw the GT-R this weekend at the auto show and it looked badass, but not 90K badass. Plus it's not a sedan which is what I need as a DD.



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    Re: Uh Oh the GT-R has major competition...

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    yea im sure you will be seeing that on the street. Im comparing a car thats priced the same as a new V and is coming out at the same time. Great post here thats why the only comment you got is from me. I dont understand the point you are trying to make either.
    The reason you're the only one to post is because it applies to you. And your goofball comparison. The GT-R is going to cost near the ZR-1 and R8 in real world pricing, in which the GT-R is actually to compete against, not the V. So go post in the Chevy and Audi forums, ummkay?

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    Re: Oh Oh New V Has Major Competition

    Quote Originally Posted by Kidhummer View Post
    I understand what you mean when you are saying that the GT-R is not directly in competition with the V. BUTTTT the way I look at it is that the GT-R is priced the same as the V and it is a mass produced street legal car and therefore in my opinion it is a threat for the V. I know that the V targets the M5, E63, C63 etc. All I am trying to say is that I rather spend the same $ and get an AWD car with many advance features for the same price as a V and it will blow the V away. SO ITS NOT DIRECT COMPETITION BUT ITS A HUGE THREAT. I AM NOW CONSIDERING THE NISSAN AS OPPOSED TO THE V. This car is much more appealing to me.
    Sure, there are a few people who are just looking for a fast car and that's it. But most who want the V want a fast SEDAN. Otherwise, why spend the money on a V when a Vette will be faster? So the GT-R will be a minor threat. A MINISCULE threat. Think out your words a little better next time...

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    Re: Oh Oh New V Has Major Competition

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigjimsho View Post
    Sure, there are a few people who are just looking for a fast car and that's it. But most who want the V want a fast SEDAN. Otherwise, why spend the money on a V when a Vette will be faster? So the GT-R will be a minor threat. A MINISCULE threat. Think out your words a little better next time...
    Im not arguing with you. For someone who needs a fast sedan its a great car, I just like the nissan better now. The acceleration is ridiculous and AWD is a big plus. And it is very easy to modify. I just wouldnt want to be driving a new V and have a GTR pull up beside me at a red light

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    Re: Oh Oh New V Has Major Competition

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    Then go buy one- just be prepared for a $20k over MSRP "bend over and take it" charge from the Dealer. I wouldn't switch from a Hybrid to a boy racer V6 no matter how many turbos or videogame readouts it has, but there's an ass for every seat.
    Right I dont disagree but many dealers will also mark up the V. "Sometimes its not what you know but who you know" Lets wait and see when the V perfromance numbers come out then we can compare "the boy racer V6: to the "V8 Luxury/Muscle". Unfortunately I love the V and own one now. But the faster the better for me. They are saying that the GTR beats the porsche twin turbo and the Z06 on the track. Not bad for 70 g's. And I dont know why you guys are being so defensive, I am just stating my opinion in liking the GTR.

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    Re: Oh Oh New V Has Major Competition

    I'm sick of the whole Internet comparing the GT-R to every car known to man, no matter how ridiculous the comparison- "O mi gawd- GT-R totally pwns the new Flying Spur!!111!!!1" There's no need to "Wait for the V numbers", as no one is looking at the two against each other (except you, apparently). I have no doubt it won't be as fast as the GT-R, because Cadillac's benchmark to beat is the M5 and E63 AMG. A 4 door luxury sedan with a huge V8 and tons of luxury versus a 2 door coupe with a high revving Turbo V6 and digital readouts from the Gran Turismo guy do not make the most intelligent comparison. People looking for the fastest car they can get don't normally care about luxury and will be looking at Z06s and Vipers- that's who the GT-R is going after.

    There's also plenty of two door cars out there that will rip up a racetrack that don't need hosts of computer nannies to do the driving for you, look better than a GT-R AND cost tons less. Several reviewers have described the experience as numb, almost boring in how little effect the driver input has in the GT-R. So it's a great rolling demo for computer driver aids- whoopie. The car is like a well designed appliance- does the job, but has no soul.

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    Let me add that I have no problem with you, but you just happened to be the 8,975,456th person to start a GT-R thread on a non-Nissan forum and I just snapped.
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    Re: Oh Oh New V Has Major Competition

    There has been a million threads comparing the GTR to the 911 turbo, but this one is very interesting. You might as well have posted this in the escalade forum, because the GTR has nothing to do with the V. (period)


    If you want fast and thats all you care about, buy a Hayabusa and fix that up. I don't think that anyone here feels that the GTR is threatening the integrity of the CTS.

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    Re: Oh Oh New V Has Major Competition

    Nope not for me. I need to put 2 car seats in the back. How does it compare now? It doesn't. Heck I would rather a C6Z and a shot of NAWZZZZZ (Nitrous Oxide) if I was in the market for fast 2 seater. Just saying. It really doesn't do much for me other than scream Boy Racer with daddies wallet.

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    Re: Oh Oh New V Has Major Competition

    As has already been said, there will be very few people to cross-shop the two cars. Add to that the GTR is going to be very limited production with most of the first year's allotment already spoken for and I see very little in the way of competition for the V.

    Having said that, there are rumors of an Infiniti badged sedan getting the GT-R powerplant as a 2010 model. If that comes to fruition then and only then will NMC have a V competitor.

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    Re: Oh Oh New V Has Major Competition

    Z06 is faster. The 0-60 is impressive because of the AWD, and I need a 5 seater. The GT-R is pretty ugly to me too and like mentioned before watch the market adjustment price.

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    Re: Uh Oh the GT-R has major competition...

    Please do not post on the Chevy boards. There are 88 GT-R threads posted there and they have been posting for months. They are the same kind of threads as the other one here and its almost as if Nissan is paying people to go on boards and talk the car up. Not saying the poster here is getting paid. i didn't even bother to look at any of his other posts, just saying that a lot of GT-R threads on all boards are now suspected spam.

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    Re: Oh Oh New V Has Major Competition

    Quote Originally Posted by type911 View Post
    Nope not for me. I need to put 2 car seats in the back. How does it compare now? It doesn't. Heck I would rather a C6Z and a shot of NAWZZZZZ (Nitrous Oxide) if I was in the market for fast 2 seater. Just saying. It really doesn't do much for me other than scream Boy Racer with daddies wallet.
    Last time I checked the GTR was a 4 seater

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