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2009-2014 Cadillac CTS-V General Discussion Discussion, Anyone 100% buying the day they arrive? in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2009-2014; Sarcastic much? Sheesh.... I can't recall ever putting myself in a situation where I'd have to slalom left and right ...
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    Re: Anyone 100% buying the day they arrive?

    Sarcastic much? Sheesh....

    I can't recall ever putting myself in a situation where I'd have to slalom left and right to avoid danger. Driving a safe distance behind and paying attention all these years has paid off, I suppose. On the other hand, I constantly find myself driving hard through windy roads or accelerating while turning at a pretty sharp angle up a cloverleaf onto the Interstate, so I'm more interested in the initial turn in characteristics and and lateral grip.

    If your commute frequently requires slalom maneuvers to avoid a crash, I'd recommend either changing jobs or buying a Miata.
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    Re: Anyone 100% buying the day they arrive?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Tony Show View Post
    Sarcastic much? Sheesh....

    I can't recall ever putting myself in a situation where I'd have to slalom left and right to avoid danger. Driving a safe distance behind and paying attention all these years has paid off, I suppose. On the other hand, I constantly find myself driving hard through windy roads or accelerating while turning at a pretty sharp angle up a cloverleaf onto the Interstate, so I'm more interested in the initial turn in characteristics and and lateral grip.

    If your commute frequently requires slalom maneuvers to avoid a crash, I'd recommend either changing jobs or buying a Miata.
    That's my point exactly. I do most of my hard turns from the feeder road onto another 4 or 6 lane road and get it going pretty good when there aren't many cars. When there's traffic or smaller roads, just take it easy.

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    Re: Anyone 100% buying the day they arrive?

    Gentleman, I wasn't necessarily speaking on behalf of myself. No, I don't find myself swerving everywhere to avoid sudden onslaughts of unforeseen obstacles. So, although I sincerely appreciate the advice on job changes, vehicle choices, and driving behavior, that is not exactly the issue. What I'm saying is that, on average, slalom type maneuvers are more applicable to the driving population as a whole, rather than a skid pad.

    Regardless, if I had to assess a vehicle's performance off of one test, either the skid pad or the slalom, I would readily go with the slalom. Each and every time. Due to its dynamic nature, the slalom is a multi-variable test that incorporates many factors - vehicle transition, lateral loads, turn-in characteristics, throttle control, steering feel/preciseness. The skid pad incorporates but one - maximum lateral grip.

    You yourselves describe such situations in which you would use all of those variables incorporated into a slalom test and yet you guys still seem to argue otherwise. A slalom gives you more information about a vehicle's performance capabilities than a skid pad. Period. Das eet. No mas. Si? Si. Muy bien.

    Yeah, I know, I'm a sarcastic bastard. Not exactly the most endearing quality. Or so my mommy tells me. Hehe.

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    Re: Anyone 100% buying the day they arrive?

    Does it really matter anyway since 90% of the drivers that buy the new V will never reach the car's full limits.

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    Re: Anyone 100% buying the day they arrive?

    Why don't we let the general V population who post here decide.

    Could somebody please initiate a poll that asks the question:
    What is the most important performance characteristic for the 09 CTS V that can be measured in a commonly available test ?

    Possible answers:
    • straight line acceleration time
    • braking distance
    • skid pad g force
    • slalom time
    • lap time
    Feel free to add other tests but I think these are the basics. Let's settle this once and for all!

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    Re: Anyone 100% buying the day they arrive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich H View Post
    Why don't we let the general V population who post here decide.

    Could somebody please initiate a poll that asks the question:
    What is the most important performance characteristic for the 09 CTS V that can be measured in a commonly available test ?

    Possible answers:
    • straight line acceleration time
    • braking distance
    • skid pad g force
    • slalom time
    • lap time
    Feel free to add other tests but I think these are the basics. Let's settle this once and for all!
    lap time. period.


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    Re: Anyone 100% buying the day they arrive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich H View Post
    Why don't we let the general V population who post here decide.

    Could somebody please initiate a poll that asks the question:
    What is the most important performance characteristic for the 09 CTS V that can be measured in a commonly available test ?

    Possible answers:
    • straight line acceleration time
    • braking distance
    • skid pad g force
    • slalom time
    • lap time
    Feel free to add other tests but I think these are the basics. Let's settle this once and for all!
    Should chick magnet be on the list? I was told it would be a chick magnet, so I put a deposit down right away. Is it fast also?

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    Re: Anyone 100% buying the day they arrive?

    Quote Originally Posted by ylwjacket View Post
    Should chick magnet be on the list? I was told it would be a chick magnet, so I put a deposit down right away. Is it fast also?
    As long as it can be easily measured and reported in some fashion. How many chicks have you had in (or on) you car at one time?

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    Re: Anyone 100% buying the day they arrive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's V View Post
    Does it really matter anyway since 90% of the drivers that buy the new V will never reach the car's full limits.
    Thats why every V owner must hit the track at least once. Lap time is the best test.

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    Re: Anyone 100% buying the day they arrive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich H View Post
    Why don't we let the general V population who post here decide.

    Could somebody please initiate a poll that asks the question:
    What is the most important performance characteristic for the 09 CTS V that can be measured in a commonly available test ?

    Possible answers:
    • straight line acceleration time
    • braking distance
    • skid pad g force
    • slalom time
    • lap time
    Feel free to add other tests but I think these are the basics. Let's settle this once and for all!
    From reading everyone's posts, I think that straight line acceleration is #1. My reason is that everyone seems fixated on the car's power more than anything, and that translates most directly into faster acceleration.

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    Re: Anyone 100% buying the day they arrive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Katshot View Post
    From reading everyone's posts, I think that straight line acceleration is #1. My reason is that everyone seems fixated on the car's power more than anything, and that translates most directly into faster acceleration.
    Are you serious? That's a lie and unless you really are crazy, you know it...


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    Re: Anyone 100% buying the day they arrive?

    Dude, look at the posts. There's WAY more concerning the V2's power than anything else. People seem mostly concerned with the power of the car.

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    Re: Anyone 100% buying the day they arrive?

    The people posting about power are only doing it to point out the flaws in your ridiculous complaining about the car's weight.
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    Re: Anyone 100% buying the day they arrive?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Tony Show View Post
    The people posting about power are only doing it to point out the flaws in your ridiculous complaining about the car's weight.
    Wow! Had no idea I wielded such power. Also didn't realize I was the only one concerned about the weight of the car. Hmmm....

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    Re: Anyone 100% buying the day they arrive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Katshot View Post
    Wow! Had no idea I wielded such power. Also didn't realize I was the only one concerned about the weight of the car. Hmmm....
    Only the power to annoy.....
    Rest in Peace, J.D. (aka Dirt_Cheap_Fleetwood)

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