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2009-2014 Cadillac CTS-V General Discussion Discussion, Paddle Shift + Torque Converter? No thanks. in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2009-2014; Yea, I have not seen the current M5 in any racing series. Caddy is putting their $$$ in daytona prototype. ...
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    Re: Paddle Shift + Torque Converter? No thanks.

    Yea, I have not seen the current M5 in any racing series.

    Caddy is putting their $$$ in daytona prototype. And will probably go for a win at LeMans to get it's name out on a world wide scale.

    Norm

    Quote Originally Posted by OldRoadDawg View Post
    The GenI V was Caddy's racing platform. But they've dropped out of the SCCA series. Not sure what kind of a fit a S/C'd 4200lb sedan would be in that series.

    Whatever happens... I'm hanging on to my '04 gear cruncher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonfrank View Post
    Define "up in age". I'm 39.....and feeling it's too bad the car is planned for release three months after my 40th birthday. And my freeway cruising speed is 80-85 in interurban driving.

    Ah yes, my midlife crisis car....at least I'll be able to put a baby seat in the back.
    Frank, I should have qualified my statement by saying that if you love performance enough to be posting on a site like this, you obviously are an exception to your demographic.

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    Re: Paddle Shift + Torque Converter? No thanks.

    Which transmission do you think will be able to handle more power mods? Cuz you all know we're going to start modding within a few months of taking ownership.

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    Re: Paddle Shift + Torque Converter? No thanks.

    I had thought stick hands down. With some more thought, I will actually pick whichever one gets better 1/4 mile times. The launch control might actually work better with the auto than the stick because the computer has more control over instantaneous wheel torque. Quickest ET is the one I want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiTechRV View Post
    I had thought stick hands down. With some more thought, I will actually pick whichever one gets better 1/4 mile times. The launch control might actually work better with the auto than the stick because the computer has more control over instantaneous wheel torque. Quickest ET is the one I want.
    Sticks are for Drivers.
    Autos are for Passengers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunarx View Post
    Sticks are for Drivers.
    Autos are for Passengers.
    If it were a true paddle shift it would be a no brainer. Everyone would be happy, I guess it must be too expensive or they just lacked the development of one.

    I will be going with the stick, but I can see how the demographic that buys this car would want the auto. After all, I was literally just out today trying to teach my wife how to drive the '06 = not very practical family car. So I see the new one being a luxary sedan first and performance car second for most people that could afford it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunarx View Post
    Sticks are for Drivers.
    Autos are for Passengers.
    Hmmm... The V is my daily driver, and most of my driving is straight lines and gentle banked turns, typically in traffic, and non-competitive 99.99995% of the time.

    If you live in a city, an automatic just makes more sense. Sorry lunarx, but manual vs. automatic snobbery is just lost on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawfive View Post
    Hmmm... The V is my daily driver, and most of my driving is straight lines and gentle banked turns, typically in traffic, and non-competitive 99.99995% of the time.

    If you live in a city, an automatic just makes more sense. Sorry lunarx, but manual vs. automatic snobbery is just lost on me.
    Perhaps a limo and chauffer is what you need.
    A V makes lots of sense for the type of driving you just described.

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    Re: Paddle Shift + Torque Converter? No thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by lawfive View Post
    Hmmm... The V is my daily driver, and most of my driving is straight lines and gentle banked turns, typically in traffic, and non-competitive 99.99995% of the time.

    If you live in a city, an automatic just makes more sense. Sorry lunarx, but manual vs. automatic snobbery is just lost on me.


    Quote Originally Posted by lunarx View Post
    Perhaps a limo and chauffer is what you need.
    A V makes lots of sense for the type of driving you just described.
    It would be nice to have a limo and a chauffer to get to work and back and have the V for the weekend fun but that just isn't practical. Not everyone can afford multiple cars but need one that can fulfill all of their needs/wants.

    Personally, I want a car that is easy to drive in traffic (which I spend most of my time in) but can also perform well when I want to have some fun.

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    Re: Paddle Shift + Torque Converter? No thanks.

    Wow, I owe you guys a lot of credit for hanging with a stick all this time, when you really wanted an auto.
    At least you did not jump ship for a Chrysler or Lexus.

    Ok one last suggestion.
    Buy the stick and carpool.
    When it's your turn to drive, just tell your colleuges that you can't drive stick in traffic and I'm sure one of them will be glad to take your shift at the helm.

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    Re: Paddle Shift + Torque Converter? No thanks.

    The manual will at first. The tuners will have their hands full controlling the new pcm with auto transmission full of electronics will take even longer. But eventually see the autos faster in a straight line.

    Norm

    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle CTS-V View Post
    Which transmission do you think will be able to handle more power mods? Cuz you all know we're going to start modding within a few months of taking ownership.

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    Re: Paddle Shift + Torque Converter? No thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by lunarx View Post
    Had to chime in:

    No Slushbox Posers

    Glad to hear some of you are still keeping the spirit of performance driving alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpjr View Post
    If it were a true paddle shift it would be a no brainer. Everyone would be happy, I guess it must be too expensive or they just lacked the development of one.

    I will be going with the stick, but I can see how the demographic that buys this car would want the auto. After all, I was literally just out today trying to teach my wife how to drive the '06 = not very practical family car. So I see the new one being a luxary sedan first and performance car second for most people that could afford it.
    I have taught 4 teenagers how to drive sticks now - the last one on the V. My wife prefers automatics - she ran 11.0's all day long running brackets in her Chevelle SS clone and Hurst 4 speed manual (driving it to and from the track), but she's not much into shifting these days. Like I said, whatever is quicker is what I want. I'm not a manual snob - whatever a car has, I can drive it and make it hum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiTechRV View Post
    I have taught 4 teenagers how to drive sticks now - the last one on the V. My wife prefers automatics - she ran 11.0's all day long running brackets in her Chevelle SS clone and Hurst 4 speed manual (driving it to and from the track), but she's not much into shifting these days. Like I said, whatever is quicker is what I want. I'm not a manual snob - whatever a car has, I can drive it and make it hum.
    I don't understand the premise of your question though, because a stick will always be faster than a true auto in the hands of a good driver. It's as simple as running the car harder in lower gears than the auto will allow, plus quicker shifts if you can drive well. The only real advantage to an auto is 1) straight line performance and even that is 90% driver, and 2)the ability to hold more power than a clutch setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunarx View Post
    Wow, I owe you guys a lot of credit for hanging with a stick all this time, when you really wanted an auto.
    At least you did not jump ship for a Chrysler or Lexus.

    Ok one last suggestion.
    Buy the stick and carpool.
    When it's your turn to drive, just tell your colleuges that you can't drive stick in traffic and I'm sure one of them will be glad to take your shift at the helm.

    Now, now, you never know who may be trolling.

    I'll be getting the auto as well.

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