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Thread: 2009 Price vs. M3\C63???

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    Re: 2009 Price vs. M3\C63???

    Even Clarkson didn't like C63.


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    Re: 2009 Price vs. M3\C63???

    Unreal. I went to MB site and found it maddening that you had to pay for for every option on an AMG. I didn't believe when it was said here you had to option out an AMG. Granted, it was an E63 AMG I built. After 3-5 clicks I was up to $97k just adding basic options that should be standard. I like the AMG cars but I'm rethinking this now. If the C63 also has to be built like the E63, MB is out their F*ing minds.

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    Re: 2009 Price vs. M3\C63???

    For those people who wonder why the CTS should be compared to the 5 series:

    http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyl...314_713158.htm

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    Re: 2009 Price vs. M3\C63???

    Thanks Tony...... GM is coming back

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    Re: 2009 Price vs. M3\C63???

    CTS coupe will compare nicely to an M3 and the M3 will only be short about 135HP.

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    Re: 2009 Price vs. M3\C63???

    The Coupe may advertise sporty but will not compete with the M3 as sports car. Think pumped up G35 coupe or jaguar HF.

    Probably be closer to 50 wheel horsepower difference in the end. Power to the ground and how aggressive the ecu protects the engine and transmission along with that "W" word, weight will be the ultimate comparison for performance. If the sts-V setup is any hint there will be allot left on the table.

    Norm


    Quote Originally Posted by GNSCOTT View Post
    CTS coupe will compare nicely to an M3 and the M3 will only be short about 135HP.

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    Re: 2009 Price vs. M3\C63???

    What's the value of the dealership sales and service experience in this equation?

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    Re: 2009 Price vs. M3\C63???

    Quote Originally Posted by StealthV View Post
    What's the value of the dealership sales and service experience in this equation?

    It certainly has value. Service, long term, definitely more than sales.

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    Re: 2009 Price vs. M3\C63???

    Quote Originally Posted by NormV View Post
    The Coupe may advertise sporty but will not compete with the M3 as sports car. Think pumped up G35 coupe or jaguar HF.

    Probably be closer to 50 wheel horsepower difference in the end. Power to the ground and how aggressive the ecu protects the engine and transmission along with that "W" word, weight will be the ultimate comparison for performance. If the sts-V setup is any hint there will be allot left on the table.

    Norm
    Sorry, i was referring to the CTS-V coupe that will probably come out when the regular coupe does.

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    Re: 2009 Price vs. M3\C63???

    Cadillac needs to do a nice promotion like this one. Or will just have trukk do it!

    http://www.amg-360.com/

    Norm

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    Re: 2009 Price vs. M3\C63???

    MB is a fine car. Just ask all of the Taxi drivers in Amsterdam and other parts of Europe. They laugh at us paying such inflated prices for what they call a dressed up taxi.






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    Re: 2009 Price vs. M3\C63???

    Just having Fun NormV :-)

    MB has had reliability issue ever since Chrysler got involved with them. They are working out of a hole but it is no secret just about anyone in the know will stear you away from a used MB. I personally am not a MB or BMW fan. Don't know why, but that's just me. I am also not a pure pro American car either. I think Nissan has relialibility issues as well. I am hopeful the GT-R will do for Nissan what the STS-V did for GM. To bring their standards up that high so quickly only shows good things to come for the Nissan (GT-R) and Cadillac (09-2010 CTS-V and V coupe).

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    Re: 2009 Price vs. M3\C63???

    The STS-V also cures cancer, removed Russian troops from Georgia and, according to LED, corrects erectile dysfunction...

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    Re: 2009 Price vs. M3\C63???

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigjimsho View Post
    The STS-V also cures cancer, removed Russian troops from Georgia and, according to LED, corrects erectile dysfunction...

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    Re: 2009 Price vs. M3\C63???

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigjimsho View Post
    The STS-V also cures cancer, removed Russian troops from Georgia and, according to LED, corrects erectile dysfunction...
    That's why Ben Stein is so happy


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