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Thread: New Camaro ZL1 faster than CTS-V Coupe?

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    New Camaro ZL1 faster than CTS-V Coupe?

    That's what the Internet and motortrend magazine are telling me. Can it be so? I know it has a bigger engine but why would GM do that? What mods could put us back ahead?


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    Re: New Camaro ZL1 faster than CTS-V Coupe?

    It's not a bigger engine, just has an enhanced intercooler. BUT, it is a lighter car which should be quicker.

    Basic mods will make the CTS-V much quicker than a stock ZL1 ( pulley, tune, 160 stat and call it done).

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    Re: New Camaro ZL1 faster than CTS-V Coupe?


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    Re: New Camaro ZL1 faster than CTS-V Coupe?

    The ZL1 is both lighter and has more power - in identical conditions the ZL1 should be faster. Light mods will make the CTS-V faster, but you can put those same light mods on the ZL1. The ZL1 can also lap the nurburgring almost 20 seconds a lap faster than the CTS-V. But the ZL1 is a sports car while the CTS-V is a GT car. They're not the same class of car and serve two different purposes, so it's really not worth your time to worry about the ZL1 being faster.

    If you buy a ZL1, you have a Camaro. If you buy a CTS-V you have a Cadillac. That's the difference.

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    Re: New Camaro ZL1 faster than CTS-V Coupe?

    Ahhh pretty close in weight and 24 HP and same TQ is not a big enough difference. Boils down to driver not car.

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    I guess Xaqtly said it best. I still want a Cadillac. But quick question: why is the camaro lighter. It's a bigger car isn't it?

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    Re: New Camaro ZL1 faster than CTS-V Coupe?

    The times I've read do not show it faster one bit. Trap speed tells it all.

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    The thing that perked my interest was that today at the doctor's office MotorTrend had its 0-60 as 3.8.

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    Re: New Camaro ZL1 faster than CTS-V Coupe?

    camaro 2ss is 3950lbs so I have to guess the ZL1 is a 100 lbs heavier than the 2SS. 4050 versus 4200 is not a big advantage. Also the camaro is a aero wall compared to the V. Dead heat and I have not seen a Mag claim ZL1 is quicker and it certainly is not faster. V 6M = 191mph and ZL1 6M= 184mph

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    Re: New Camaro ZL1 faster than CTS-V Coupe?

    I've heard in stock form the Zl1's really are not that quick, a guy who owned a speed equipment place got one and posted the results on another forum and was only running like mid 12's in the quarter. But once modded these cars are beasts, he had the car doing mid tens within a few weeks.

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    Quite a bit quicker at the 'Ring...

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    Re: New Camaro ZL1 faster than CTS-V Coupe?

    They handle much better then the V due to the 3 wire MR and the 5 driving modes. 3.8 compared to 3.9 0-60. Virtual tie.

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    The mere fact we are able to discuss cars that crack off sub-4 second 0-60 times right off the showroom floor at both over two tons each is mind boggling.

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    Re: New Camaro ZL1 faster than CTS-V Coupe?

    My 2011 CTS-V sedan (automatic transmission) in absolutely pure stock form (including Michelin PS2's) ran 12.02@ 118+ MPH, 12.03 @ 118+ MPH, 12.11 @ 117+ MPH and 12.11 @ 117+ MPH on PBIR's quarter mile track earlier this year on a less than ideal day, weather wise (85 to 91 degrees / 1500 to 1900 feet Density Altitude). That's quicker than what Chevrolet engineers could get both a manual and an automatic transmission Camaro ZL1 to run on stock tires and a cool day on a U-Tube video I watched a while back. Apparently the mild horsepower (+24) and weight (-100 pounds) advantage that ZL1's have over CtS-V's is not significant enough to make ZL1's faster, acceleration wise, than CTS-V's.

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    My main issue is that every source I check has different times for each. I saw one spot that had the CTS-V at 4.2 on the 0-60. I guess it all comes down to how you drive.

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