2013 BMW M5 vs 2012 Cts-V *Video*

[Pphilthy]

How could your neighbor get it already? BMW is starting production on US-spec M5 cars only now.

My neighbor works in Woodcliff Lake NJ - connect the dots... lol

[Pphilthy]

BMW has a mind of there own while all car companys switching to front wheel drive pos cars BMW has never made a fwd car even for Europe I like how they believe in what a car should be.

http://www.bmwblog.com/2012/01/25/ne...rive-vehicles/

Last time I check, the BMW design/developed Mini is also FWD...

LOL - inset foot in mouth... weren't you leaving BTW...?

[allinmyhead]

Both cars are nice cars in all honesty. It all depends on what you want and what your willing to pay. The real cost factor on these two cars comes after warranty is expired. That "M" car I'm sure is going to cost you more to maintain in the event of any issues.

^ This. Just dropped >$3k on my wife's out of warranty Q7 this month for a new bluetooth module and brakes (wear item, so not entirely fair to include). I'm not big on BMW's new boring/bloated design direction, as soon as I read that they artificially create engine noise in the M5 using the audio system, I was out. I don't care how good the car is, that right there points to a serious marketing compromise by the engineers.

I really wanted an AMG, but I've had Mercs before and remember the wallet pain of Service B (which is supposedly required to maintain warranty coverage ... debatable, but the effort of arguing with the dealer almost isn't worth it). Local dealer wouldn't quote me for Service A or Service B prices over the phone on an AMG. Which I found very odd. But he also let it slip that Service A is required every 5000 miles on AMG cars? Seemed fishy, but that was enough to scare me off.

Convincing the wife that I need a 110k super sedan that gets 16mpg of 91oct is one thing. Convincing her that this same car will also cost a couple thousand in scheduled maintenance would be a miracle.

I have a hard time stating this with a straight face, but after the AMG, the CTS-V almost seemed economical.

[M5eater]

CTS-V

The nissan Versa of Super Sedans lol.

[thebigjimsho]

No man the M5 and M3 have always had manual transmission even before the V.

BMW and mercs have been in rivalry for about a hundred years many cars have come and went but they still at each other throats trying to out do each other.

BMW has a mind of there own while all car companys switching to front wheel drive pos cars BMW has never made a fwd car even for Europe I like how they believe in what a car should be.

I personally prefer to buy another V but not this V even better a Chevrolet version of this v i like chevy styling better than cadillac.

No. When BMW released the E60 M5 in America, it was going to be SMG only, like the rest of the world. The outcry from purists here forced BMW to add a manual option.

As for Mercedes and BMW being rivals for a hundred years, Cadillac was the standard of the world before BMW ever existed. As for BMW having a mind of its own, why are they making 5 series cars that are more luxury, less sport? Same for the 6. They're going for more mass market.

Cadillac is quickly swooping in to capture the title of world's best handling sedans.

As for you thinking BMW doesn't even think about Cadillac...YOU bought one, sucker. You are the reason BMW is wary of Cadillac. YOU! hahahahaha

[dqw1]

Why is it when some decide to leave the forum they choose to go down in flames instead just saying bye and leaving with respect?

[neuronbob]

God this thread has devolved.

IBTL

With that said:

CTS-V

The nissan Versa of Super Sedans lol.

That gave me a nice belly laugh, which I really needed today. Thanks man!

(I drove a Versa as a rental the last time I was on the West Coast, what a POS....I could not wait to get back to my V, waiting patiently at the Cleveland airport for my return.)

[Garymonnecka]

My neighbor works in Woodcliff Lake NJ - connect the dots... lol

Makes sense now lol. Don't they have a big corporate office there? I know either Bentley or rolls does. That's close to me and I always see pre-production BMW's audi's and even mini's sometimes. Saw a countryman at work before it was released.

[concorso]

I will reply to same way I was talked to..but I agree Let's keep it clean gentlemen

Go back and read his posts. He didnt come close to insulting you. Youre mad at your V and trying to take it out on owners who are happy with their cars. Do what you promised, please.

[concorso]

Ergonomics is pretty much there imo. The interior could be a tad better, but did you see how big the center console in the F10 is? It's not exactly setup for a manual trans, that was sort of a last-minuite thought. Also, material quality is high in the germans, but do you honestly prefer their design? Seems like giant slabs of flat land-mass to me. I'd take the curves of the ATS or CTS over that tyvm, or at least Audi's approach of something inbetween. What BMW and Mercedes are doing is very cold and stale by comparison IMO.

This. Id love a higher quality interior, but the BMW interior is cold, uninviting. Unusual lines inside with such timeless beauty on the outside makes me wonder if their designers ever conversed.

[Q8 6.2]

went to BMW today the first batch has been all sold next batch comming in october maybe end of september they have all been reserved except one which is white with dark red interiour... I wanted black with black interior.. So he says we can special order it for you but it will take 6 months or more as there is a world wide waiting list a mile long so I have choice white one in 3 or 4 months or place an order and wait minimum 6 -8 months

I took a few pics of one which is sold also but they told the buyer that it has to be in the showroom for a month hahaha

Car is BEUTIFULL the seats are huge and very confertable plenty of side support this one is a special edition M5 individual I'll upload more pics

[Q8 6.2]

Check out that camera on the side of the bumper what the hell is that for

[Q8 6.2]

Duel intercoolers just before entering the TB


Duel heat exchangers one on each side


Ok this is my FAVORIT pic look at that trans cooler it is built rite on the lower engin cover where the plastic under cover supposed to be it is now all trans cooler not some plastic cover

[Q8 6.2]

Very classy interior

[M5eater]

Check out that camera on the side of the bumper what the hell is that for

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOzf8mPFBh0

Thanks for the photos btw! She certinally does look orgasmic.


That Individual paint job must have cost several shiny pennies!