Not Happy With GM Quality

[08CTS]

Remember, the one other thread this guy wrote about his wife's minivan being faster than the CTS got locked...

[RAB]

Originally Posted by 08CTS

Remember, the one other thread this guy wrote about his wife's minivan being faster than the CTS got locked...

The forums here need some sort of troll-ware program.

Or perhaps a BS Meter automatically displayed within suspect posts?

[concorso]

Originally Posted by av00178

I have to admit I'm shocked at all of the problems people are having with their new CTS's I guess I'm no exception. I haven't owned an american car since 1987 when I had a GTA and it was a great car. Since 1993 I've owned foreign cars from Lexus to Mercedes and just came off a lease on a M35, I've owned these cars because I felt American cars just couldn't compare in terms of quality and I guess that stilll holds true. I really fell in love with the CTS after reviewing the car and it's supposed to be the best Cadillac in 50 years I decided to take a chance on an American car. The foreign cars I've owned have had very few rattles and vibrations and interior noises if any and thats one of the main reasons I purchased foreign cars and never had any of my cars in the shop for any reason other than an oil change. Since owning my loaded CTS w/DI and F2 AWD I've had it in the dealer four time for noises in the rear end, my drivers seat came apart in the back, my drivers door wouldn't unlock and I had to enter from the back door, and rattling noises from my sunroof. I want to love this car but I just can't see myself buying another American car.

Your drivers' door wouldn't unlock because the car doesn't like you. That CTS, along with this community, would rather you go buy an extremely reliable Mercedes. (I almost spit out my rum typing that...reliable Mercedes...thats like saying 'i have an enjoyable STD'...)

[urbanski]

Originally Posted by RAB

The forums here need some sort of troll-ware program.

Or perhaps a BS Meter automatically displayed within suspect posts?

troll-aware = me

[RQFinMD]

I look at it this way: that there are Lexus/Mercedes/BMW trolls posing on here with fake comments proves one thing--GM/Cadillac in general, and the CTS in particular is a REAL THREAT not just in theory but in actuality.

You betcha!

[NewCaddyFan]

Originally Posted by BreakThrough

Thus far, 4400 miles, purchased in September 07, no issues.

Oct 07 here about same mileage.....no issues...I probably had 3 by now on my 04 SRX (which I still own), this has so far been a fantastic purchase.



"I have to admit I'm shocked at all of the problems people are having with their new CTS's ."

This might be a post with a legit squawk list but blasting the whole fleet and the rant for Euro's along with the lack of mass quality control issues on the new CTS leaves me a bit puzzled.

[CTS27]

In this early stage, there is no win to the argument good quality vs bad quality. We can all argue until we are blue in the face. I tend to think there are some common issues/problems. There is huge pressure to produce this new model when plant capacity is maxed and, as a result, quality is suffering at the moment. The more pressure to crank these out, the more pressure on the suppliers and supplier quality may be suffering. Also, the fact that the car is completely revamped from the ground up and is in the first year of production is, by default, a big reason why the car is going to have some initial issues that need to be worked out

I think the telling tale will be when the Initial Quality Reports start coming out. Only then will the poor initial quality argument have any true hard evidence. Only time will tell the story here.

[RAB]

Originally Posted by RQFinMD

I look at it this way: that there are Lexus/Mercedes/BMW trolls posing on here with fake comments proves one thing--GM/Cadillac in general, and the CTS in particular is a REAL THREAT not just in theory but in actuality.

You betcha!

PS. My '08 DI CTS4 now has 3500 miles on the odometer. There was an AWD transfer case vibration (grounding) issue when I first received my car. That was easily fixed by the dealer, and since then the car has been terrific - no issues at all, quality or otherwise.

[thebigjimsho]

I have a first year V. That car is solid. No squeaks, rattles or build quality issues. The diff is one thing but my dealer has been fantastic. The rest of the drivetrain is great...

[dkozloski]

The good men do is oft interred with their bones but the evil lives long after. GM has done some amazingly good things for the entire automotive world over the years but is a prime target for criticism, a large part of which is undeserved and inappropriately aimed.

[GTPprix]

Originally Posted by av00178

I have to admit I'm shocked at all of the problems people are having with their new CTS's I guess I'm no exception. I haven't owned an american car since 1987 when I had a GTA and it was a great car. Since 1993 I've owned foreign cars from Lexus to Mercedes and just came off a lease on a M35, I've owned these cars because I felt American cars just couldn't compare in terms of quality and I guess that stilll holds true. I really fell in love with the CTS after reviewing the car and it's supposed to be the best Cadillac in 50 years I decided to take a chance on an American car. The foreign cars I've owned have had very few rattles and vibrations and interior noises if any and thats one of the main reasons I purchased foreign cars and never had any of my cars in the shop for any reason other than an oil change. Since owning my loaded CTS w/DI and F2 AWD I've had it in the dealer four time for noises in the rear end, my drivers seat came apart in the back, my drivers door wouldn't unlock and I had to enter from the back door, and rattling noises from my sunroof. I want to love this car but I just can't see myself buying another American car.

Arent you the same guy that started the "2008 CTS is a dog" thread? If so.. well I think everyone for sure knows you are a troll now heh

[urbanski]

naw why lock...i'm not feeding anything. he can express his opinion and enjoy his minivan while other members debate his stance

[dkozloski]

Originally Posted by GTPprix

Arent you the same guy that started the "2008 CTS is a dog" thread? If so.. well I think everyone for sure knows you are a troll now heh

All he has to do to cure his niggling little problems is to put pure nitrogen in the tires.

[caddyeyes]

I don't think what is being tossed around here is bad for a model redesign. One would expect some things to be worked out. I've owned foreign and american. If you compare lower cost small 4 cyls and 6 cyls Japan does beat American made IMO. But if you look at cars in 6 to 8 cyl and compare apples to apples and cost to cost the performance is very similar.

[GTPprix]

Originally Posted by dkozloski

All he has to do to cure his niggling little problems is to put pure nitrogen in the tires.

All four or just two? hehehe