Wind Noise

[dheftler]

My dealer has had my car for 4 days!! I brought it in for a whistling sound that sounded like it was coming from the right rear door. After 2 1/2 days of realigning the door and playing with the weatherstripping, now they tell me it is the sunroof that is out of alignment. They adjust it, take it for a ride and it comes undone. I am freaking out! Anybody else have a problem like this?

[VGJackson]

Just picked mine up today for the same problem, this is the second time for the wind noise. They seem to have repaired it, they adjusted it the first time and it still was noisy.
They said on the ticket Sunroof not adjusted properly, (they are the ones that adjusted it the first time). I also have a vibration, they road forced balaced the wheels but it is still not right... guess it will go back in. This gets old when they dont repair it the first time. Good luck with yours.

[auntiegeorge]

Ours has exactly the same problems. You are not alone! Sunroof noise is intolerable. Steering wheel vibrates over 60mph. Quality abounds in this car. Toyota next time.

[LLCoolJson]

Hope that they can fix your problems and make you happy.....why do people always say i will get a toyota or honda or some other rice burner if there is a problem with there car..,,those cars also have problems....check out there boards...people doing the same things we are.... .my boss had an avalon..he brought that thing to the dealer 4 times in the first couple of months...stuff happens....especially in a brand new body style....hang in there and once all is well,you will enjoy your new car.

[928S]

Originally Posted by LLCoolJson

.....why do people always say i will get a toyota or honda or some other rice burner if there is a problem with there car..,,those cars also have problems....check out there boards...

The jury is still out on initial quality of the 2008 Cadillac CTS vs. other brands, models. But since you asked, let's check out the latest J. D. Power 2007 Quality Ratings by Brand:

http://www.jdpower.com/autos/ratings...tings-by-brand.

It's arguably more objective than any online forum, including this one. Please note that a total of nine, including four "rice burner" brands, surpassed Cadillac's mediocre "about average" rating:

Honda
Infiniti
Jaguar
Lexus
Lincoln
Mercedes Benz
Mercury
Porsche
Toyota

So perhaps that's why "people always say..."

[Bender]

Originally Posted by 928S

The jury is still out on initial quality of the 2008 Cadillac CTS vs. other brands, models. But since you asked, let's check out the latest J. D. Power 2007 Quality Ratings by Brand:

http://www.jdpower.com/autos/ratings...tings-by-brand.

It's arguably more objective than any online forum, including this one. Please note that a total of nine, including four "rice burner" brands, surpassed Cadillac's mediocre "about average" rating:

Honda
Infiniti
Jaguar
Lexus
Lincoln
Mercedes Benz
Mercury
Porsche
Toyota

So perhaps that's why "people always say..."

In all fairness, there are plenty of other Japanese brands in the "about average" or "the rest" categories (Subaru, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Scion - a Toyota subbrand, Mazda, etc.). Also, in the JD Power Dependability Ratings, only the following makes received the top rating: Buick, Cadillac, Mercury, Honda, & Lexus.

YMMV, but I try to dig a little deeper with individual vehicles. For example, I admit to a pro-Lexus bias when it comes to quality and reliability. However, the Consumer Reports data on the AWD version of the GS (that I considered when I was looking at the CTS4) is not so good; the RWD version did great. First months of production on a redesigned model from anyone is a bit risky. Even the first year of production will likely have worse numbers than subsequent years. There are some larger trends (Toyota and Lexus near the top, Land Rover dead last), but other makes have been all over the quality spectrum (MB, Audi, Porsche, Jaguar).

Personally, my worst ownership experience has been with a Subaru, but most Subaru owners swear by 'em.

[Southern]

Actually Toyota has been trending down...........according to Toyota.

Toyota’s New Management Initiative Promises Top-Down Shakeup
By Marty Jerome June 28, 2007 | 6:01:00 AMCategories: Business
You’d think Toyota would be sitting pretty, having overtaken GM only two months ago as the world’s biggest automaker. Yet recalls have tripled in the past three years and the Toyota brand has slipped in J.D. Power & Associates study of quality. Dealerships continue to score poorly in customer satisfaction surveys. And Toyota’s most loyal customer base is aging—which is exactly what happened to Buick and Oldsmobile. So management is planning an overhaul—an initiative dubbed EM2—or everything matters exponentially. It will entail a reexamination of everything from product planning to customer service and marketing—even the dealerships that Toyota doesn’t own will come under scrutiny.
Source: BusinessWeek

[OneLapCoastie]

I might also add that looking at the various categories, Toyota did not score substantially better and in some areas worse than Cadillac. What is not captured in the J.D. Power survey is the driving experience, which to me is as important as the quality of the vehicle. In my opinion there are few cars on the road that are as boring to drive as a Toyota - regardless of the model.

[Bender]

Originally Posted by Southern

Actually Toyota has been trending down...........according to Toyota.

Consumer Reports has similar thoughts. They just quit giving Toyota models an automatic recommendation without gathering reliability and satisfaction data.

[Bender]

Originally Posted by OneLapCoastie

What is not captured in the J.D. Power survey is the driving experience, which to me is as important as the quality of the vehicle. In my opinion there are few cars on the road that are as boring to drive as a Toyota - regardless of the model.

Yeah, outside of a few Toyota SUVs (FJ Cruiser, 4Runner, Land Cruiser), I have trouble getting very excited about their models. The idea of a hybrid SUV that could seat 7 people appealed to me, but try to find a review of the Highlander that doesn't use the word "bland" or "boring" to describe the interior or the exterior. If they don't find a designer with some energy soon, they're going to slide into the demographic that Cadillac and Buick are trying to escape.