How many are considering a STS to the CTS? - Page 3

Dago Godfather · #31 (**permalink**) 01-04-08, 04:25 PM

A few months back, I had a 2007 STS as a rental car. I had always wanted a Cadi, but I was not sure which one. When I drove that STS, I thought that was the car for me....until I drove the '08 CTS. Not even considering the cost difference, I thought the CTS was a much nicer car with the new interior redesign. The performance of the CTS DI engine seemed as good, or better than the STS.

In my opinion, I think the CTS is a better car, even if they were the same price. That's not to say I won't trade to an STS if and when Cadi comes out with an updated design for the STS.

I've seen that the interior dimensions are similiar, but the STS did feel larger inside to me.

malatu · #32 (**permalink**) 01-04-08, 04:27 PM

May I ask where you rented the STS? I've tried a couple of times to rent one with no luck.

Dago Godfather · #33 (**permalink**) 01-04-08, 04:28 PM

I rented it in Springfield Missouri. I'm pretty sure it was from Enterprise.

Southern · #34 (**permalink**) 01-04-08, 05:06 PM

National Car rental has rented Cadillacs for years. I have used them several times. Can't speak to STS specifically..........But a phone call could clear that up. Call National at the Airport (on the weekend) and see what they have.........

jjsC6 · #35 (**permalink**) 01-04-08, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bathel

I disagree with this.

The CTS is very good at the 70-100 kickup. Plenty speed to get yout out of any trouble you might get in. The V8 does have more Git-up in that range, but it useless and unneeded except for braggin rights.

Second, you can't compare the interior layout and design of the STS to the CTS. The STS looks like a plastic "cheap" car on the inside. The CTS looks Polished. I do like the looks of the STS on the exterior, but I also like the looks of the CTS.

Personally, CTS is the first Caddy I've seen that actually got the interior correct. I wouldn't buy a STS if they offered to sell it to me for 30k.

The STS is going to be dead soon anyway... the CTS will take it's place as the midsized car in the Caddy lineup, IMHO.

Have you looked at the interior of an '08 STS? It has been significantly upgraded.

DanV · #36 (**permalink**) 01-04-08, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bathel

I disagree with this.

Second, you can't compare the interior layout and design of the STS to the CTS. The STS looks like a plastic "cheap" car on the inside. The CTS looks Polished. I do like the looks of the STS on the exterior, but I also like the looks of the CTS.

Personally, CTS is the first Caddy I've seen that actually got the interior correct. I wouldn't buy a STS if they offered to sell it to me for 30k.

The STS is going to be dead soon anyway... the CTS will take it's place as the midsized car in the Caddy lineup, IMHO.

Bathel- I couldn't agree with you more, and I was waiting for someone to say this! I do like the STS, but feel that the interior falls short on a $50K + luxury car...kind of cheap. The CTS has a far superior cabin, which prompted me to buy my first American car in years. In fact my brother-in-law's new BMW 535xi interior ($63k) is not as well-done, even at his confession!

eternity · #37 (**permalink**) 01-05-08, 03:38 PM

08 STS interior is still a more "traditional" look than 08 CTS interior. To my wife, a jewelry designer, the STS was not an option after seeing the interior of the 08 CTS. Exterior of the STS was fine/comparable.

If you want to be "current" with your long-term purchase, which she did, the CTS is more current.

That said, I am surprised a little at some of the (very) minor bells and whistles I have on my 01 DTS that are not in her fully loaded 08 CTS (custom exit positions, auto seat position based on fob, rear seat heaters, tiltdown mirror that works as described). I have seen discussions on some of these, and understand them to some extent, but was just a little surprised.

Yama1yzf · #38 (**permalink**) 01-05-08, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dago Godfather

I rented it in Springfield Missouri. I'm pretty sure it was from Enterprise.

That's how I ended up with my '05 STS renting from Enterprise...then I got on a plane to come home and there was a $399 lease for the STS V6 going on so it was like it was my calling.....anyway I just traded it for an '08 CTS with the DI engine and IMO the CTS handles, rides, accelerates and looks better than the STS both inside and out. The interior blows the STS away and the 18" wheels are icing on the cake. Now I don't have a V8 to compare it to but that's my opinion on the V6, It is also 3 years newer so really not a fair comparo.

Have you seen the new Lincoln MKS? That's a real good looking car.

Dago Godfather · #39 (**permalink**) 01-05-08, 09:21 PM

Unless they changed the engine in the newest Lincoln, I think the horsepower is considerably lower than the CTS. I liked the Lincoln when I saw the concept car, but was less impressed with the actual car when I saw it at the auto show.

MoFex · #40 (**permalink**) 01-05-08, 09:44 PM

Problem with the Lincoln is it is a FWD...........I hate FWD cars!

imrf · #41 (**permalink**) 01-05-08, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MoFex

Problem with the Lincoln is it is a FWD...........I hate FWD cars!

They offer AWD on the MKZ. Maxed out the MKZ is also cheaper than the CTS. But it doesn't look as good as the CTS does.

c5 rv · #42 (**permalink**) 01-05-08, 10:42 PM

The MKS is coming out this summer with a 3.7L V6 rated at 270 HP and 265 lb/ft of torque with a weight of about 4200 lbs. Other that that, it looks like a great car and will be on my list to consider in 2010. (along with CTS, STS, DTS, and Lucerne)

MoFex · #43 (**permalink**) 01-05-08, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by imrf

They offer AWD on the MKZ. Maxed out the MKZ is also cheaper than the CTS. But it doesn't look as good as the CTS does.

Yes, but it is AWD with primary driving wheels being front.....and it makes a difference.

c5 rv · #44 (**permalink**) 01-06-08, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MoFex

Yes, but it is AWD with primary driving wheels being front.....and it makes a difference.

I have an 07 AWD MKZ and can attest that it does make a difference. The car is very well planted with no tendency to swing out the rear end (as some Cadillac AWD owners have reported) and the traction control is much more subtle than on my SRX. However, the MKZ also drives more like a Town Car, with a huuuge turning radius and isolated road feel, rather than anything at all sporty. (Unfortunately, just the way my wife likes to be driven around.) I had an owner of a new Mazda 6 (same platform as the MKZ) take a turn behind the wheel of my MKZ and his impression was that the handling was "ponderous".

The only other complaint I have about my MKZ is that too much of it feels like it's lesser siblings (6, Fusion, Milan) - from the interior components, to the sound of the doors, to the method of assembly. (Look at the rear wheel wells of a MKZ sometime.) The cars built on the Cadillac Sigma platform feel and sound like luxury cars.

Yama1yzf · #45 (**permalink**) 01-06-08, 09:09 AM

Don't want to turn this into a Lincoln thread, but I have a '06 Zephyr which is actually a very nice riding car so I will probably move to the MKS in the summer. You can build them on Lincoln's site and 20" wheels are an option. Mine would come to $40k with Nav. It looks stunning with the 20" wheels....

http://www.lincoln.com/reachhigher/